general problems of the 2017 Ford Expedition - part 1

Sudden and severe downshifts occurred at roadway and highway speeds resulting in sudden speed decrease. Also revving and loss of power occurred. Problem codes p0706 & p0707 were logged which point directly to the transmission range sensor (trs), which is integrated into the molded lead frame. This sudden and uncontrolled loss of speed caused significant danger to vehicles, ocupants, and other vehicles.

While driving down the road 70 mph the transmission suddenly downshifting from 6th gear to a much lower gear causing the rear wheels to briefly lock up causing a skid safety issue. . . At the same time, the speedometer dial swings downward to the left like a sudden deceleration, then seems to catch up and return back to normal driving if you will here is the Ford case number: [xxx] information redacted pursuant to the freedom of information act (foia), 5 u. S. C. 552(b)(6).

My 2017 Ford Expedition is currently at an authorized dealership (arlington heights Ford, IL) for a failed transmission lead frame (dtcs p0706, p0707, p1702), which causes intermittent loss of gear engagement and sudden shift issues. This specific part is subject to NHTSA engineering analysis ea26001. Ford is refusing to honor the 10-year/150000-mile extended coverage (program 19n01 supplement 4) and a separate safety recall (25s37 for brake master cylinder) because the vehicle was originally manufactured for canadian market. Despite the vehicle being in a u. S. Facility, Ford claims a 'system limitation' prevents them from bridging the VIN for these safety repairs. This is a formal refusal to remedy a documented safety defect that puts the driver and the public at risk of unintended downshifting and loss of braking power. ".

As is the same with the Ford f-150 recall for the transmission downshift issue my Ford Expedition has that same problem I sent an email into your website and hopefully it will be addressed because it is the exact same thing. When I accelerate to access an on-ramp at the highway or if I try to pass somebody on the highway and accelerate the transmission downshifts and almost causes me to lose control. It down shifts very abruptly and hard and sounds like it's going to yank my transmission out.

We were driving on the highway and suddenly lost all power. Vehicle downshifted so hard I thought someone had hit us. Then it was back to normal, driving fine. But now we had no speedometer and the check engine and wrench light were on. My wife said she had felt something like that before but it was minor and at a lower speed. It had never resulted in a check engine light or loss of speedometer. I told her to exit the highway. She was shaking like crazy because she thought we just got rear ended. I can see how this could cause someone to completely wreck it was so harsh. We towed it home and when we started it up at home all those error lights were off. So I drove it around the block and it drive fine. I had my friend come take a look. He scanned it and it had a p0720 code. He said his f150 had the same issue and the same code as well a few years back and it was covered. It turns out we have the same transmission in our Expedition that he has in his f150. I havent had a chance to call the dealer yet but the paper I read in the recall and extended waranty coverage states only going up to a 2013 vehicle. They say it was a leadframe issue causing this. My Expedition has the same leadframe, and the same issue. This is very much a saftey concern since it changes harshness of downshifting out of no where. It could be even worse next time locking the wheels up or blowing the engine. Knowing its the same transmission and the same leadframe, why isnt my year model under that recall. I was reading in the forums and there are hundreds of similar questions coming from people with Expeditions and f150s that are near to my year and not covered. Can you please let me know if there is something im missing. Thank you.

While towing our RV trailer, we received a wrench light and the vehicle when into limp mode. When we tried to slow down and take the next exit on the interstate, the transmission tried to shift from 6th gear to 1st gear, causing the rear tires to screech and slow the vehicle dramatically. This could have caused a rear collision due to the abrupt slowing of the vehicle. The problem could only be reproduced when towing a trailer for an hour or more, so the problem was not reproduced by a mechanic or service center. No one else has inspected the vehicle. The only warning light was the wrench light on the dash. There was a code stored when checked: p0735.

The transmission suddenly downshifted to 1st gear while traveling at 45 mph with no warning. This created a very dangerous and life threatening occurence.

The vehicle has not been inspected by anybody so the problem is not been reproduced. It just happened this morning. There have not been any check engine lights or anything related pop up on the dash. I was leaving my house I just reached highway speeds 50 to 60 miles per hour I was in 5th or 6th gear. The transmission suddenly downshifted on its own to first gear it downshifted so hard and so fast that it barked the tires really hard the rpms went up to 5 to 6,000 I thought that it had somehow been hit into reverse or park or something I am the only one in the vehicle. I shift the vehicle into neutral and then I went back down to manual and cycled up and down a gear and then put it back in drive.

Truck first would shift out of park but would not engage into a gear causing it to roll unexpectedly in the downhill driveway. Problem self corrected with a few ignition cycles. Week later truck became inoperable at a stop light and require shut down and restart and traffic. Same day truck would not start at all after returning home. Dealer diagnosed 6r80 transmission with molded lead frame assembly failure. This has been subject of a recall or customer satisfaction program for earlier year models but not beyond 2013.

TSB 23-2143, citing cold-start cam phaser rattle as a manufacturing defect that impacts reliability and safety (loss of power, premature wear, noise).

For 1. 5+ years, the transmission will unexpectedly and suddenly downshift into 1st gear without warning. Which causes a sudden deceleration. No warning lights before it happens. It occurs randomly and at different speeds. It has happened over 20 times. I've experienced it happening at speed ranging from 35mph to 65mph. The gear shifter was in the drive position each time this issue occurred. The SUV is the 2017 Ford Expedition el with the 3. 5l ecoboost engine with 6 speed automatic transmission. No check engine light before or after the issue (so no obd2 code to read) a big yellow warning appears during/after saying "see manual". Sometimes the issue will resolve in a few seconds. The SUV has not been to the dealership yet for this issue. But I will be contacting Ford today.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while attempting to start the vehicle, the vehicle failed to start. Roadside assistance was contacted. The technician connected the battery cables and jumpstarted the vehicle. The vehicle was started, and the vehicle was driven to the residence. The contact later replaced the battery. The contact stated that the failure reoccurred. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed with parasitic battery drain due to a failed gear shifter. The contact was informed that the gear shifter needed to be replaced. The vehicle was being repaired. The contact was informed that parts had been ordered for the repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure but provided no assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 40,000.

I can be driving up a hill the traction control warning light and hill decent braking light come on causing the vehicle speed to drop the vehicle shakes acting like it is trying to stop. Once you stop and turn the vehicle off the error codes go away . This problem has been occurring since early September it currently only occurs going up hill on one road.

While driving, the speedometer began to bounce around. This caused erratic shifting. At one point the speedometer went to zero while we were still moving. I pulled over put it in park and it would not go into gear. During this the air bag light came on. After turning the vehicle off and back on again, everything went back to normal. Over a period of days, it would do the same thing again, but not as bad as the time listed above. The speedometer will bounce around while driving and cause moderate shifting issues. I took the vehicle into a shop, and they ran the code as being output speed sensor. After research, it appears Ford had a recall on output speed sensors for 2014 f-150 vehicles (recall reference number 24s37) which use the 6r80 transmission. I contacted my local Ford dealership and Ford corporate via chat, and both told me my 2017 Expedition was not covered under that recall. Since my vehicle uses the same transmission, I inquired as to what they did to fix the output speed sensor issue. They could not provide me with that information. I have several videos of the speedometer bouncing around, but am unable to upload them here.

In 2022, around mileage of 67000, our SUV was climbing a steep road when it suddenly made a pop sound & went into limp mode with the wrench light showing and the engine sounding rough. It felt like no fuel was getting to the engine & the gas pedal was non-responsive. The rpms didn't change when the gas pedal was pressed. The grade was so steep, we barely made it to the side of the road without rolling backwards into traffic behind us. After turning the engine off and sitting about 10 mins, we tried starting the engine again. The car seemed to have reset itself! it ran fine; the wrench light turned off, and the gas pedal was responsive again. (at the time, we were on vacation at the coast and had traveled from our home at about elevation 3500'. We had also recently had to buy gas from a small no name gas station, so we feared we may have gotten bad fuel). From there, we returned home without re-occurrence, and we used fuel cleaning additive to our chevron fuel for the next 2 fill ups. Then, approximately 600 miles later on a flat grade, it happened again without the pop sound. We immediately went to our Ford dealer who found no error code but found our purge valve stuck open. They recommended we replace it, which we did, and we operated the vehicle for 2 years without re-occurrence and using only chevron gas. Recently, it happened again! luckily, we weren't on a steep grade this time or on the freeway, but if a car would have been behind us, we would have likely been rear ended, especially had we been on the freeway. Once again, we shut the engine off, and it reset with the wrench light disappearing, so no diagnostic code got thrown again! based on many complaints, this appears to be a common problem. It's very dangerous as the car immediately losses power to a crawl no matter what speed you are traveling at the time. It seems to be the electronic throttle body in instances where the SUV can stay running, so a code can be obtained before it resets.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving approximately 50 mph, the transmission unexpectedly downshifted to first gear, causing the vehicle to abruptly slow down. The contact stated that after restarting the vehicle, the failure was corrected. The vehicle was driven to the local dealer who diagnosed the vehicle and determined that the transmission lead frame was faulty and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, but no assistance was offered. The failure mileage was 170,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while his wife was driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle stalled. The tires then seized, causing the vehicle to jerk. Additionally, the speedometer was inoperable while driving. The "blind spot system fault" and "see manual - transmission" messages were displayed and the check engine warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was able to restart. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic, who diagnosed that the molded leadframe needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and a case was opened. The contact was informed that the failure was related to customer satisfaction program: 19n01 (transmission molded leadframe extended coverage); however, the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was approximately 120,000.

I am about to have the rear end rebuilt for the 2nd time since I bout the vehicle roughly 1 year ago, and am currently over 30th in line at my dealership to have a rear end rebuilt.

Was traveling 75 mph on a busy highway and lost power, the message center lit up yellow with a wrench in the middle, vehicle went to idle/coast, had no power to move thru lanes as cars were buzzing by me. Very scary somehow got to the side of road safely but close calls many times. Had it taken to Ford dealer - pulled the code p2112 throttle control system stuck closed/throttle actuator control system closed. I would like to join class action lawsuit that is open for this problem since Ford will not stand behind this issue. I spent $600 to replace the defective throttle body component with a new one. But the reality is that this put myself and others in grave danger because the total loss of power. Thank you gary klemme 920-912-3039.

Driving at highway speed, vehicle gauges drops to zero and transmission stays at 3rd gear. Unable to know what travel speed is while trying to exit safety off highway. Have to turn off engine to reset issue, but no way to figure out what happened.

Vehicle sudden power loss. No fuel getting to engine vehicle must be stopped it is in limp mode. Turned off and restarted and vehicle runs. Happened 15 different times. Still ongoing possi le contaminated throttle body?.

Pulled into a parking spot and put the car in park. The vehicle started to roll backwards while in park. Had to hit the brakes to stop the car. I checked and the car was securely in park. Had to put the car back in drive and pull forward to pull back fully into the parking spot and apply the emergency brake.

Driving through a mile-long tunnel on an interstate highway (speed limit 55 mph), the vehicle ceased to respond to the gas pedal and would not accelerate or maintain speed. Attempted to shift gears but that produced no change - it was as if the transmission was stuck in neutral, but pushing the gas pedal did not increase the rpm. As we exited the tunnel at approximately 30 mph, the driver attempted to pull over and stop the vehicle, and found that the power assist for the brakes was not working, making stopping difficult - the driver had to push the brakes very hard, multiple times, to stop the car. We did contact 911 dispatch when we thought we were going to likely impede traffic, as the tunnel only had two lanes traveling the same direction. However, no intervention was required as we reached the end of the tunnel and were able to pull over before the call was completed. The vehicle was towed to a dealership and they diagnosed a fuel pump and/or fuel pump module problem, but have ceased to respond to our calls for the past 48 hours, so we have no further information. The check engine light turned on when the car was restarted, but then later turned off, without any repair work having been completed.

Wheels: tires were unidernflated to 25 and no dash warning received. Tires inflated to 32. Within a month severe tire bulge appeared no dash warning. Tires now replaced. Power train: yellow wrench on dash, SUV went limp after acceleration, SUV had limited forward power to pull over to side of road. Shut engine off, restarted, no yellow wrench, no problem for approximately 20 miles. Identical problem occurred 2 more times about 20 miles after the preceding incident. From Ford forums it appears there is an issue with the throttle body, but when taken to Ford for obd scan no error was found. This 2017 Ford only has been garage kept, gently driven about 34,000 miles.

On may 15, 2023, our 2017 Ford Expedition rolled while in park and unattended. It had been parked for approx. 2-1/2 hours before rolling down our inclined driveway. It collided with our granite mailbox post, snapping it off. Thankfully, no one was hurt, however, the vehicle suffered significant damage.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle jerked and then stalled. The transmission, check engine, and several unknown warning lights were illuminated. The contact turned off and restarted the vehicle to correct the failure. The contact's husband diagnosed the vehicle and retrieved dtc: p0720 (output speed sensor). The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired by an independent mechanic or dealer. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and was advised the contact to file a complaint with the NHTSA hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 190,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving 70 mph, the instrument panel went blank, and the powertrain malfunction and air bag warning lights illuminated. The vehicle lost motive power and stalled; however, the contact was able to pull over and waited until the vehicle cooled down. The vehicle was taken to the dealer but was not diagnosed. On another occasion, while driving 50 mph, the vehicle lost motive power and stalled. The contact pulled over, but the vehicle failed to restart. The vehicle was towed to the dealer who stated that an unknown wiring harness needed to be replaced. The transmission was replaced but the failure reoccurred. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 200,000.

While driving, the vehicle suddenly went into a "limp mode" where it lost almost all power and a power train warning light came on. This happened once on July 14th and then again 5 times on August 2nd, 2002. The car was not drivable after the consecutive incidents so it had to be towed to the dealership. It was determined the throttle body had failed and needed to be replaced and because the car was about 2,500 miles beyond the power train warranty terms the repairs cost $790.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that after parking the vehicle, the gear shifter failed to recognize the park(p) gear and the alarm system alerted him that the doors were unable to be locked. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed that the transmission shifter assembly needed to be replaced. The dealer replaced the transmission shifter assembly. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and advised the contact to file a complaint with the NHTSA hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 28,500.

At roughly 95,000 miles the bearings in the rear differential went bad on our Expedition el. We drove it this way for a few months until we could get it properly diagnosed and repaired. It was repaired by stearns Ford under our extended warranty (aftermarket) several weeks ago, and has been fine since the rebuild.

Loss of power, no throttle response while driving. Happens when the throttle is advanced at a faster pace like taking off from a traffic light. I get the "see manual" message and the wrench symbol. Turning off and then turning back on the vehicle clears the fault. Known problem with the throttle body. . . . . Can you say recall?.

My Expedition was set to 45 mph via cruise control in a work zone, at night, on the chesapeake bay bridge tunnel. While in the first tunnel in the northbound lane with 2 way traffic, I heard a slight pop, then rough running feeling and completely lost acceleration. The power train wrench warning light came on. Since I was on an incline in the tunnel with no way to pull over and the vehicle was going forward at a snail's pace, I decided to continue as far as I could since it was the safest thing to do for all drivers in the tunnel. The Expedition finally crept out of the tunnel and I was able to pull off to the side to let traffic pass. As soon as we had cell phone service, I had my daughter call the chesapeake bay bridge tunnel to let them know that we were disabled and in need of assistance. I decided to see what would happen if I turned the vehicle off and restarted. Everything reset and I had power, but for how long? the cbbt police agreed that the safest course of action for all vehicles on the road was to tow my vehicle to the other side as it is dangerous to breakdown on the cbbt, especially in one of the tunnels. I was able to drive home after the tow. However, the following day, I tried to drive it again and it did the same: ran rough, wrench sign, no pop that time, total loss of acceleration. Restarted and made it back home. My husband tested it a few days later after re-cleaning battery cable terminals that had been corroded before we replaced the factory battery, and it did the same thing with him on the highway! if we had been trying to get into traffic, turn where we had to cross traffic or any number of other situations and the Expedition lost power like that, the outcome could be deadly. The cbbt would have records since they towed me and wrote the VIN down.

While driving today my vehicle lost power and went into limp mode. The warning wrench came on. This is very dangerous, especially on the freeway. There is no where to get off and the vehicle slows to a stop in the middle of traffic. I turned the vehicle off and restarted it to reset the warning. I did get home, very bad situation in the middle of traffic without any warning.

Car stops accelerating at various speeds on numerous occasions, and cannot get vehicle to propel. No propulsion occurs. Must bring vehicle to complete stop, turn off, and turn back before it will accelerate. Large wrench appears on screen, but disappears after the car is restarted. Safety issue because you cannot maintain speed or accelerate, was almost rear-ended and created potential accident trying to pull vehicle over. Took two visits to the authorized dealer to diagnose the problem as their was no "code" apparent to dealer, and was almost rear ended in between those visits. Vehicle owner quickly googled problem and noticed that n. Carolina consumers council had successfully petitioned NHTSA for this issue on other Fords, but that recall appears not to have included these Expeditions. Dealer replaced the throttle body.

While driving the 2017 Expedition el on a local street, the engine suffered an extreme reduction in power and limited speed to only 5 mph. After taking the vehicle into the dealer, it was determined the it was a failure of the throttle body.