general problems of the 2002 Honda Odyssey

06/04/2021 2002 Honda Odyssey - aftermarket fuel pump lock ring - multiple failures safety issue = gasoline leaking out of the tank onto the ground. Starting in 2019, three aftermarket fuel pump lock rings have failed on one 2002 Honda Odyssey. The lock rings were all made of plastic. The oem Honda lock ring was also made of plastic and after 17 years did not fail, but was replaced when a new fuel pump was installed. A delphi model fg0956 fuel pump had two lock ring failures. The third lock ring failure was on a airtex model e8642m fuel pump. The torque spec per Honda for the fuel pump lock ring is a hefty 69 ft lbs or 93 nm. An sk click type torque wrench model 73100 was used on the installs, as was a fuel tank lock ring tool lisle model 63000. All the lock rings were at first hand tightened to prevent cross threading before using the torque wrench. The sk torque wrench used has never been known to over torque bolts. The third lock ring for airtex was torqued to about 60 ft lbs due to the prior failures. No warning lights or messages appeared when the lock ring fails. All failed within one year of install. Failure detected by noticing the smell of gasoline, especially outside the vehicle and sometimes inside the vehicle. Each of the failed lock rings split, and then gasoline starts leaking out of the top of the tank at the fuel pump and onto the ground. The fuel pump will start to rise above the tank due to it being spring loaded and the lock ring failing. The problem is most noticeable after filling the fuel tank, and when the vehicle is exposed to high outside air temperatures. If you look under the vehicle, a puddle of gasoline on the ground is sometimes visible just below the fuel pump. If the failure is not yet severe enough, you will not see a puddle but may still smell gasoline. A local auto parts store recommended purchasing an oem Honda lock ring due to the aftermarket failures and the hefty Honda torque spec of 69 ft lbs on a plastic ring.

After spending money to get car fix. Found out there are at least 60 recalls on this vehicle. I only gotten 7 or 8 recall letter from Honda. Accord8ng to the mechanic friend, I could have gotten a new car after all the repairs from the recall. Call Honda on this and they said it's your responsibility to ensure you take the car for recall repair. We are not responsible for missing recall letters, even if I never receive them.

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The automatic transmission occasionally disengages between 30mph to 40mph. Sometimes it re-engages or sometimes manually downshifting causes the drive to re-engage. Dealer says this is a known issue and the solution is to replace the transmission. I've taken it to a local mechanic and a called a local transmission company and they also say this is a know issue with this model year. A google search turns up many people with the same issue for this model year of the Odyssey. I will have to get this fixed as I cannot count on the vehicle for reliable and safe transportation any more.

Honda Odyssey vehicles apparently have a well known transmission problem. Models from multiple years (including mine: 2002) have short lifes compared to any other vehicle I've seen before. Worse yet, Honda refuses to admit that this is a problem, nor will Honda offer any help paying for the very costly repairs. And worst of all, even if the transmission is replaced (ultimately, the only fix that Honda recommends), the new transmission will also fail prematurely! besides causing outrageous repair and maintenance costs, it's really a dangerous problem for the public besides. The transmission can fail unexpectedly leading to an accident.