Tire Tread/belt problems of the 2005 Honda Odyssey

I purchased cooper evolution m+s 235/65 r16 tires that I purchased from tire kingdom at 220 linto blvd delray beach FL. 33444. The set of tires have low miles on them and tread wear is great. When I got the tires I felt a vibration in the tires from the front pretty quickly. I had my whole front end of my car replaced including beairings, no help. So I spent money and replaced the 2 front tires with the same tires and they were very young tires and a wheel alignment and the shaking was mitigated in the front but the car still vibrated slightly. The wheel alignment had the steering wheel off center so I went back another wheel alignment to correct and I mention to them the car is vibrating still if they can inspect the tires and when we looked the front lh tire had tread seperation which looked like someone took a knife andtried to carve the tread at the seem off the tire it went in about 3 inches plus. Tire kingdom accused me of hitting something I was like we barley drive this car and why would and I hit absolutely nothing. So they analyzed it and prorated me another tire of the same brand. So now we are on 7 new tires for one Mini van that barely gets driven. I went to orlando and my back rear of the van was vibrating the last 10 miles I had to take the side streets. I went to walmart and purchased brand new good years for my van and there is now zero vibration I love it. My my van has been vibrating the day I got the cooper evolutions and I went through 7 tires a new front end and replaced rear spindles because I could believe tire with such amazing tread life would vibrate a car like that. If I went for a prorated #8 tire I would still have vibrations. I called cooper tires to complian they gave me a claim number 2003880477 and said bring to tire kindom who refused the tires. We called back cooper who only again said bring to tire kingdom . I have all 4 tires waiting to be inspected with the 4th tire completly out of shape without air in it. Tire kindome no help.

The contact owns a 2005 Honda Odyssey equipped with toyo tourevo tires, size: 235 65 r16. The contact was traveling 45-60 mph when the front end of the vehicle vibrated. The vehicle was taken to a local repair shop. The local repair shop confirmed that the front driver's side tire tread separated and needed to be replaced. The contact also stated that on another occasion after traveling 60 mph, the failure repeated with the remaining tires on both passenger and driver side rear tires. The manufacturer was contacted. The vehicle was repaired. The failure mileage was 69,912 and the current mileage was 77,558. . . . . Updated 06/18/12 on 09/21/09 the consumer mounted four new toyo toureveo all season blackwall tires on his vehicle. On 08/29/11 the left front tire had to be replaced due to tread separation. On 6/05/12 the right front, left rear and right rear tires also failed due to tread separation.

Pax tires fall apart and the dealer did not service them well. Tread failure 1 to 2 inches of rubber fell off, down to threads. Dealer claimed that running into a curb could cause this to happen. Tires failed before 30 thousand miles. Cost approximately $100 more than normal tires. Honda provided no other options to tire problem, monopoly on the manufacturer of tire, michelin. Monopoly on service to vehicle where little other dependents are available to replace tire. Discount tire is the only other provider. Honda does not recognize any other optional tires for use on their Odyssey. Discount tire proposes a replacement with a 18 inch z rated tire that might leave vehicle with a dash warning that cant be turned off or disarmed. Tire pressure system also is not accurate or reliable. No restfully options by owner. Weather changes set off the tire pressure alarm that can only be reset by dealer. One of the pax features was to replace a spare because of weight. A pax tire is 25 lbs more per tire than a normal tire thus nullifying any benefits. Cost is a hundred dollars more per tire and reliability is less. Service ability is less. A dealer this last time was unable to break the bead on the tire. The tire before that they had to replace tire and rim 2 to 3 weeks to get it done. This time two weeks has past and the service not done failed due to mechanical failure on there new $30k000 tire machine.

The pax tire system by michelin gives marginal tire wear. The tires wore out at 25,000 miles. The tires can only be changed by pax authorized dealers making them nearly impossible to find convenient nor inexpensive. What is meant to make us safer has only made us poorer.

We own a 2005 Honda Odyssey equipped with the michelin pax tire system. We have been complaining to the dealer's service dept. About the odd wear (edges worn out while the center of the tread looks fine, and so far they have charged us for an alignment (they said they could not even consider checking into it until we paid for this, and then later told us this was a common complaint with the pax system tires, which leads me to believe that they were only trying to make a few bucks off of us, but that's another matter). The vehicle has tpms, so we know tire pressure is not a factor (at least if following Honda's recommendations is assumed to not contribute to the wear). We do not drive the vehicle aggressively (it is a minivan, and carries our 2 young children, with my wife being the primary driver, so the odds of anyone with this complaint on the Odyssey are that they drive very conservatively). The dealer has told us for approx 10000 miles (half the total mileage driven to this point) that the wear is not abnormal, but now we can not longer drive the van in inclement weather since the last 1/5 of both sides of the tires have worn to the point of not having any water sipes left to prevent hydroplaning in rainy conditions. The dealers service dept has revealed that they have had numerous complaints about these tires, but michelin in their typically "holier than though" manner of never making a bad product (this words from the dealer rep) has stone walled attempts at getting them to admit fault with the design or manufacture of the product. Furthermore, they have a monopoly on the product's replacement, leaving customers no choice but to pay a king's ransom for another set of these tires we do not want. We are filing a complaint, and seeking any info on joining a class action lawsuit against michelin and Honda of America for selling a patently dangerous product to a consumer group who purchased a product with safety being a major factor in the purchase decision.

My wife was driving our 2005 Honda Odyssey (14500 miles) at 60 mph on a smooth dry highway when the right rear tire exploded. The tire separated into three parts, left and right sidewall and tread. The tire was a michelin energy lx4 235-65-16, original equipment on the Odyssey. Inflation pressure was normal, having been checked two days earlier. Temperature was approximately 65 deg. There were four women with their weekend luggage on board, certainly weighing less than the rated load of the vehicle and the tires. Since she was 200 miles from home, she had to buy another tire (off brand) at the nearest tire shop. The failed tire was later taken to discount tire in lake worth, TX for replacement with a correct tire.