Service Brakes Problems of Tesla Model S - part 2

Another automatic phantom braking throwing us toward in the car with no objects or other cars in proximity.

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The car was on enhanced auto pilot and was moving at about 50 mph, the traffic in front of me slowed down. The car failed to give an alert, it failed to slow down and stop. I applied the breaks, but by then the car crashed into the pick-up truck in front of me. The car came to a complete stop after the crash and the computer system in the car completely shut down. The car had to be towed to the garage. My safety and the safety of the driver in front of me were at risk due to malfunction of the enhanced auto pilot system we immediately filed a service ticket with Tesla and upon repeated requests we were told that car could not be inspected and the breaks or auto pilot system could not be tested as the car was not drivable. Police and car insurance company were notified. Tesla was able to provide us with a edr there were no warning signs or messages prior to the malfunction.

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April 21, 2023 me and my daughter was driving from jacksonville beach to fernandina beach around 6pm. Exiting from 295 to i95, I removed my autopilot to reduce speed, I was very focus driving, not on my cellphone and even sleepy. Then I saw the car in front of me suddenly stopped, I know I have enough distance and confidently press the break hard enough to make it stop. But the Tesla, while started beeping loud as it sensored the sudden stop of the car , seems to just slowed down and not stopping even with the full hard press of the break, the Tesla just keep on moving slow until it just hit the car and we just heard a loud bang from the airbags that blew up, gas fumes all over inside the car, shocked with what happened, I immediately opened the car door due to the gas fumes. It was traumatizing. I have been driving for almost 20 years, a lot of experience from high way to city driving, years of experience with crazy manila traffic and highways, using different kind of cars, SUV, family van, even u-haul, I am very familiar with how breaks work and how breaks could save life and save from accidents even with a split seconds, but the experience with Tesla’s break system is different. With this crash with Tesla, I remember this was not the first time the break didn’t work as expected. Had the same instance happened before with Tesla, though we didn’t hit any car but almost – me and my daughter together with her classmate was driving to school. Suddenly the car in front stopped due to the traffic light turned red. Again the car started beeping loud, I know we have enough distance and confidently press the break, but to my surprise, and the kids started getting scared when the Tesla seemingly not stopping and seemingly gonna hit the car as it continuous to drive and the break not helping to stop quickly even when the break was fully pressed. I believe this is a serious issue. My car now assessed total loss and just paid for market value, lost $20k in a year span.

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Car repeatedly applied the brakes hard and suddenly while traveling at 75mph on the interstate. This occurred while in driver assist mode as well as in cruise control only. It did not happen when driving without any assisted driving modes activated. There were no other vehicles near us nor any objects in the road or on the side of the highway that could have been construed as a reason to emergency brake.

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On March 19, 2023, I put my Tesla in drive and it went into reverse . When I tried to brake the speed accelerated. We were unable to stop the vehicle, while driving in reverse the car hit two mailboxes and two ceramic flower pots. It has been over 6 weeks and Tesla will not return my calls or messages. My insurance company looked at the body of the vehicle for a repair estimate. Nothing indicated that there was a problem prior to the incident.

On March 17, 2023 at approximately 4:00 pm mt, I was traveling at approximately 75 mph with adaptive cruise control and auto pilot engaged when the car suddenly applied brakes with no obstruction ahead or behind or on the side. The car quickly slowed down to approximately 55 mph, released the brakes and began to accelerate back to the speed limit of 75 mph.

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My 2015 Tesla Model S was driving with autopilot on 3-17-2023 at 5:45 pm pst near the intersection of lafayette st and memorex dr. In san jose California when I noticed it panicked and slammed on the brakes while traffic was flowing at about 40 mph. The day was clear no rain, fog, or obstructions. There was a Jeep approaching faster from my rear left in the next lane but it wasn't in front of me. No other cars were in front of me either. There was traffic directly behind me and the car suddenly braked nearly causing an accident from the rear. The car showed an icon of a person in red (an indication of what it was braking for). However, there was no person in the area. I immediately hit the acceleration pedal to avoid the accident from the rear and to keep the car moving. The car never showed a "person" indicator before in the 4 years I have owned it. I know the newer models show it but not this year. I immediately requested service through Tesla as the car has phantom braked for ghost cars in the past but never a ghost person and it almost caused a serious accident. I was told by Tesla that there is nothing they can do and that I needed to press the "push to talk" button in the car and say "report a bug". I told them in a moment like that I am more focused on preventing an accident and that is not a good solution. I did provide the time, day and conditions to them.

The contact owns a 2019 Tesla Model S. The contact stated the experienced phantom braking without warning while on cruise control at approximately 76 mph. The vehicle's speed then reduced to approximately 45 mph. The cruise control eventually began functioning as expected increasing the speed back up to 76 mph. The failure occurred twice within 20 miles of each other. The first time there were no other vehicles nearby and the second time occurred shortly after passing another vehicle. The dealer was made aware of the failure however they were not able to duplicate the failure. The vehicle had not been diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 24,500.

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We had the adaptive cruise control, turned on and the car braked violently on I 90 in washington state heading east. The brakes slammed on so hard that the tires screeched. We were in the fast lane and it was fortunate that no one was directly behind us or there would’ve been a serious accident. It happened again about 5 miles later, but not as violently.

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This alert is about "phantom braking", which is well known to Tesla owners, and the subject of much online discussion among owners who seem to all experience this and are furious that it continues to exist. Here's what happens, very, very often yet: with adaptive cruise control engaged (with or without "autopilot", ie 'autosteer' also engaged), the brakes are applied suddenly without any need for braking (no objects in the way of travel, etc). We just completed a trip on I-94 from billings/red lodge, montana across north dakota, where phantom braking was experienced probably 50 times, with no other vehicles ahead of us, and on perfectly dry pavement, etc. There had also been very dangerous icy conditions (lots of even "skating rink ice") on the stretch of I-94 in montana, from billings into north dakota. Had the phantom braking occurred on one of the sporadic ice patches further east, it could have easily caused a serious accident, not just been a scary nuisance. In situations with heavy traffic, phantom braking could easily result in rear-end collisions by cars that may be following too close to react before we, the Tesla drivers, override the phantom braking by hitting the accelerator--even that simple maneuver cannot be executed before the car has suddenly decelerated 10-20 mph or more. Some of the phantom braking seems to have been somewhat corrected where we'd first encountered it, on I-394 west of dntn minneapolis--it doesn't happen as often now as it did a few years ago. There we'd suspected it may have been triggered by the shadows cast on the pavement ahead of us by overhead bridges. But this rash of events across north dakota this week brought our worst memories and fears back with a vengeance--and with zero theories that could explain it. On a recent online discussion about this issue, there were several pleas for Tesla to give us a "dumb cruise control" option till this gets fixed. Please help foster solutions to this difficult situation! thank you.

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Im having total braking loss around freezing temps the issue occurs around freezing temps, after a car wash or if the roads are wet after driving on the highway for 20-30min without using the brakes. (using one pedal driving) last year I had the same issue and Tesla’s position was something to do with detergent in the car washes I use. Now they’re saying it’s because I put the “wrong” size rear tires on the car. They were sold to me and installed by Tesla as the factory recommended winter tires and rim package. They’re saying that the abs sensor is detecting the error and automatically applying abs brakes because of the mismatch tire size. However, the issue is not an intermittent braking loss, it’s a complete braking loss. I’m also seeing abnormal front rotor wear. Tesla said this was an issue that was occurring on some other vehicles and they had a high level engineering team trying to figure it out. At the time mine was one of the first p2 refresh vehicles in canada so I was guessing there weren’t that many being used in below freezing temps since they weren’t exporting to europe at the time.

When driving with autopilot engaged, the vehicle sometimes gives alerts even when there is no vehicle or obstacle in its path. Immediately once the driver takes control, the autopilot does not disengage but continue as usual. The autopilot suddenly brakes or slows down even when there is no obstacle on a freeway.

Sudden braking while using adaptive cruise control. Multiple “phantom braking “ incidents during a long road trip.

Sept 30, 2022. Driving east bound on interstate 10 ,east of tallahassee FL, car started flashing dash red. Car applied brakes while going 70 mph. Car made me pull off the road because of applied braking. It would not release the brakes. I called Tesla roadside assistance, "you have a flat tire". Attached are screenshots. I didn't have a flat tire. Had to get towed 300 miles home. Next day brakes released, drove car. I keep getting error codes everyday. Car has been in service, "nothing wrong". This a safety hazzard, imagine in heavy traffic on a bridge.

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I was travelling on the highway at high speeds when the traffic suddenly comes to a halt. My tires were screeching without any signs of abs kicking in whatsoever. My car slid 20-30 feet since I braked.

Our Tesla, in the "full self drive" mode, has on more than one occasion applied the brakes suddenly without warning while traveling on the freeways. The date I indicate below was the last occurrence. I see that others have indicated this malady and I wanted to add our voice to this conversation. Thank you.

Driving midday on interstate 90 at 78 mph. The car was in cruise control. Four passengers. No other cars in front of me. Luckily there were no cars directly behind me. The car violently slammed on the brakes. My passengers thought I had hit a dog. Very scary. I am glad no one was hurt. But it is dangerous. I think the car had a recent software update. I have heard that the phantom braking issue can be worse right after a software update.

Apparent software issue with adaptive cruise control causing unexpected hard braking at highway speeds. Random hard braking occurs on open road when road is clear, flat, and no other vehicles nearby. Narrowly avoided being 'rear-ended' during several occurrences by car behind. I drove the car this week on a two day road trip from palm springs to santa fe and this issue must have occurred 18-20 times during the 750 mile trip. I also tried using difference settings and nothing seemed to eliminate the issue.

With increasing frequency in recent weeks, my Tesla brakes without warning. It seems to occur while under adaptive cruise control. At times the car is approaching a road sign. At other times there is no reason apparent to me. The adaptive cruise control works well otherwise.

We were entering our driveway to park the car at the garage as always, I drove towards the end of the driveway to reverse into the garage. I turned the wheel towards the right, pressed the break to stop the car to reverse, car lurched forward and went down the small hill (3-4 feet high) to the neighbors yard and when I pressed the break again the car stopped (after about 15 feet from the driveway). Damages : car’s bottom hit the ground and all plastic parts came out. Also, some kind of fluid (likely radiator ) started leaking. Also noticed some scratches/damages to the bumpers.

Recurring uncommanded firm phantom braking for no apparent reason. At risk of being hit from the rear. Driver & passengers frightened & panicked. It has occurred a number of times but cannot be reproduced at will. Vehicle inspection has not been performed. Dealer says it's a software issue. No warning lamps, messages or any other symptom prior to event. Event has recurred multiple times.

We took our first major road trip in our new 2022 Tesla Model S on Friday 10/14, leaving at 10:00 am for a 9 hour trip. During the trip the car experienced multiple severe incidents of the car braking hard while at highway speeds and two of the incidents almost caused an accident. The car drops 10 to 15 mph instantly for no reason. We drove the car home on Monday 10/17 without aeb, auto steer, fsd beta, emergency lane departure avoidance and obstacle-aware acceleration and used tacc occasionally and still had the issue but wasn't as severe. Even on the day we purchased the car (sept 30) and drove it home (a short drive on highway 95) we had a similar incident but it was so new we weren't sure if it was us or the car but now we know it is a fault of the car and creates a very dangerous driving situation which could result in an accident or death to a passenger in our car or in the car behind us when our car decides to slam on the brakes for no apparent reason. There were no warning lamps, messages or symptoms of the problem prior to the failure. We turned in a service request to Tesla and their response was to drive the car and have it happen again and create a bug report. So basically Tesla is asking us to put our lives on the line to help them diagnose the problem because they don't want to take the time to review the diagnostic data that is readily available to them. In our opinion, this is a very serious and dangerous problem and the car needs to be taken off the road until Tesla resolves the problem.

The contact owns a 2022 Tesla Model S. The contact stated that while utilizing the adas features including adaptive cruise control, the vehicle unexpectedly applies its brakes while driving at highway speeds. An unknown warning light intermittently illuminated. The vehicle was not diagnosed. The vehicle was not repaired. The dealer nor the manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 2,236.

Have experienced phantom braking at high speeds which could cause a rear end collision involving the vehicle or vehicles behind me. The phantom braking occurs about once per 500 to 750 miles and always occurs while traveling on the freeway at 60 to 70 mph. Approximately 80% of the time, it occurs at exactly the same place just before a large freeway sign. The occurrences are regardless of surrounding traffic. Sometimes it occurs with many other cars (at safe distance from me), sometimes with a few cars around me and sometimes with no cars within 100 yards in any direction. This one location is located in mid-California, at the north end of ventura, on us 101 (freeway) northbound about 200 yards south of the highway 33 (ojai) cutoff.

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I was driving my Model S from oregon to texas, 14-16 Sep. The car was new, picked up on 31 Aug. I had the car in autopilot when I was on the highway on the drive to texas. In the first two days I had four incidents of "phantom braking" at highway speeds, as high as 80 mph. There was not a lot of traffic those first two days and the conditions were dry so there was little risk to others and the car stayed straight during the braking. However it's not hard to imagine scenarios where unexpected braking at high speeds could be a problem, such as during wet or dusty road conditions, driving into a high speed turn with other vehicles nearby, etc. The vehicle has not been inspected but the incident has been reported to the dealer and I am awaiting guidance.

1) repeated incidents of Tesla ghosting braking on the highway in autopilot. Sometimes with no cars in sight 3) braking from a high speed to 35 or 40 mph - would have definitely caused a crash if auto close behind me 3) all incidents have been reported to Teslas with time date stamps and they have never gotten back to me and ignored all my warnings that this will cause an accident ( which I now see it has ) I can get a date and time on some if needed. You can also search the Tesla support call log.

While driving with traffic aware cruise control engaged and set at 55 mph the car did a hard break to an almost complete stop in the middle of the lane for no apparent reason. This occurred at least two times and both times there was no traffic in front of me. The road was a two lane highway. There was oncoming traffic and cars behind me but no cars in front of me. The breaking was so hard on both occasions and it startled me and caused me to veer off the road in the first instance . The car behind me had to break suddenly as well. After the second occurrence I disengaged the tacc as it seemed to be sensing the oncoming traffic.

This is a follow up to my last two complaints of sudden swerves that are probably causd by suspension failure. It is in my opinion highly probable that the suspension is likely to snap when brakes are suddenly slammed on hard at speed. This is known as Tesla "phantom braking" and you have hundreds of complaints about this on file. This situation is extremely dangerous. Not only might a Tesla that phantom brakes be run over by a following truck but if the suspension snaps it can cause the Tesla to veer into the oncoming lane with fatal results. As a precautionary measure I believe you should immediately ban Tesla adaptive cruise control and autopilot because these are the reason that phantom braking occurs. People are getting killed almost daily. Please stop this deadly experiment. Here is a near miss event. . Read more...

In August 2022 I was driving my Tesla s. I was traveling 25 miles an hour or less. I unfortunately lost consciousness for a very short time. My Tesla then crashed into a parked car. There was snow emergency braking nor any emergency alarms. In theory describes shouldn’t of happened with an emergency braking system.

The contact owns a 2019 Tesla Model S. The contact stated while driving at 70 mph on auto pilot and the vehicle braked on it's own with no warning. The contacted stated that he had to accelerated causing the vehicle to operate normally. The contact stated the failure reoccurred without auto pilot on the vehicle. The dealer or the manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was 59,000.

While driving at night if someone doesnt turn off there high beams the car will randomly slam on the breaks as if its going to hit something. Low beans dont effect it but high beams do while your driving past another car.

While driving with adaptive cruise control or auto pilot the car will apply the breaks for flashing yellow lights. Random times there is nothing around and it will just tap the breaks lunging you forward then contrinues as normal.

Cpu compatibility to existing os and memory system causing multiple failures during driving with: 1. Instrument cluster reset or reboot (temporarily disables all controls related to buttons/knobs on steering wheel and possibly other safety functions), 2. Main nav/computer screen reset or reboot (temporarily disables all controls), 3. Auto braking activation (cannot be disabled by user) enabled at dangerous and unpredictable times of city traffic, 4. Backup camera picture not updating/frozen during backing uo vehicle, creating illusion a. Not moving when in reverse while driving, b. Not showing objects that may be directly behind vehicle when in reverse manufacturer (Tesla) service ticket opened and closed as “resolved with memory reset” without follow-up if problems still occur.

I experienced multiple incidences with phantom breaking today. Multiple times per hour of driving (average of 5 times per hour on a ling 10 hour drive) events occurred on open highways/freeways with no other vehicles or objects around. Thankfully. But these incidences could have lead to a crash if other vehicles were following closely.

Brakes are not strong enough to brake tires loose or cause anti lock. My Chevrolet colorado out stops my Tesla. Hit an animal that my truck would not have. Helpless feeling.