Rear Seat Belt Problems of Honda Pilot

The contact owns a 2004 Honda Pilot. While driving 10 mph, another vehicle crashed into the rear driver side of the contact's vehicle. As a result, the retractable rear seat dislodged and slashed the face of the rear passenger. The rear passenger sustained a concussion. A police report was filed. As of October 3, 2007, the dealer and manufacturer had not inspected the vehicle. The current and failure mileages were 72,000.

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: the contact stated while the vehicle was parked, the center seat belt in the third row seat locked closed around a 5 year old occupant, and would not open. The seat belt continuously tightened every time the occupant moved, resulting in an abrasion across the stomach of the child. The seat belt was subsequently cut to release the child. The vehicle was not seen by a dealer.

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As a child passenger safety instructor I want to inform you about the safety belt systems in the Honda Pilot, Acura mdx, Toyota sienna and any other vehicle with the center seating position lap/shoulder belt extending from the interior roof of the vehicle. Although lap/shoulder belts provide upper body protection, these belts do not fit children and some adults properly. Even children using backless boosters do not fit properly in the belt system. I do not have evidence of any injuries or deaths at this time. It is my observation, both personally and professionally, the manufacturers need to redesign this seat belt system.

2005 Honda Pilot - fundamental flaw in shoulder belt center seating position 2nd row. The belt starts in the cealing so far forward that when a person without a thick upper body sits in the center position in the 2nd row, the belt passes next to the cheek rather than the shoulder. In the case of a child who is too big to be in a booster with a back but is still relatively small, the shoulder belt actually passes in front of the shoulder and descends to the buckle without even touching the shoulder or the upper chest! this leaves the child in a position to have her neck perhaps broken or otherwise be injured by the belt in the event of a side collision from the left. Moreover, it also leaves parents with three children, such as me, who need to use the full cargo area for cargo, faced with the unacceptable choice between placing the shoulder harness behind the child's back or placing the the child in the 3rd row and eliminating much of the needed cargo space. The Honda service dealer advised that is just the way the vehicle is designed. Honda customer relations was even less helpfull. The representative simply said it "complies with all government standards" and then refused to refer me to a supervisor or anyone else at Honda headquarters in California or tell me the phone number for Honda headquarters in California. Surely it does not comply with federal rules to design a belt so that it does not even make contact with the shoulder and upper chest of a child once they are too large for a booster with a back and are therefore sitting against the uptight part of the 2nd row seat rather than being moved forward by the booster. Honda needs to place the belt about six inches further back on the ceiling or attach an adapter to the back of the second row that would come over the seat and grasp the shoulder harness when a child or small woman is seated in the second position. Please help before some child is injured.

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I filed a complaint one year ago and never received any kind of response. It is odi id number 10122170.

My question is " why would a car manufacture install seat beats anchors in a over lapping fashion?" I have a 2004 Honda Pilot and I notice that the seat belts anchors for the third row seat ( middle & driver seat passenger) over lap each other, but in the second row seats they don't over lap. I took my Pilot to a Honda service center and I was told that it was done to create more space for the third row passengers and it was not a flaw design. This appears to be out of the normal installation for seat belt anchors.

2003 Honda Pilot center seating position 2nd & 3rd row. Seat belt system does not fit adult ( in my experience, 1 woman 5'8" and 1 woman 5'10") or child in a booster seat (both highback and evenflo right fit booster) properly. Shoulder straps cut across neck just under jaw bone. Shoulder strap is not able to be positioned at center of collar bone and in some cases does not even make contact with collar bone (child in evenflo right fit booster). My concern is that if the seat belt does not fit properly occupants will put seat belt behind back or under the arm. I am a cps technician and purchased this vehicle a few weeks ago, not realizing this situation. I had only checked the installation of a britax super elite in the center seating position before buying the vehicle.

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