general problems of the 2016 Kia Motor Optima - part 2

Mya paint is bubbling , chipping and peeling all over my car.

Both rear windows, independently and at different times, have needed to have the gear inside the door panel that rolls the windows up and down replaced due to spontaneous stripping and total failure. The dealer has replaced the offending parts, which are sold only as part of a much larger / very large component panel, I. E. It is not possible to replace only the small plastic stripped-out gear. My safety was at risk both times because the window would not go up, resulting in my inability to lock and secure my car. If I had small children who ride in the back seat (I don't, but surely others who have this car do), I would not be able to secure their safety inside the vehicle. The problem has been inspected, confirmed, and repaired by the dealer. It is a known recurring problem by the manufacturer kia, but they refuse to issue a recall. The first time it happened the car was still under warranty so there was no charge to me. With the second window the car was no longer under warranty and I had to pay the full cost of the repair. There were no warnings of pending failure; the windows were rolled down and just failed to roll up. I wish to state for the record that although this is a 2016 model and therefore is now 7 years old (in 2023), it has only 14,000 actual miles on it, I. E. I drive the car only around town for errands, etc. From 2017 (when we purchased the car) through mid-2020, I drove it 18 miles per week to my part-time job very near my home. I retired in mid-2020 and drive the car even less now. Furthermore, I've had riders in the back seat probably less than a dozen times in 7 years, my point being that the rear windows are rarely used. Mostly they have been used by me as the driver when I want to release built-up heat from the car when it has been sitting all day in the nc summer sun and I'm going out once or twice a week to drive it somewhere (like the grocery store). This failure should not be happening with a car with so little usage on it!.

My kia burns lots of oil. I'm having to refill oil every 300 miles. And the oil isn't on the ground. It's burning out on my sparkplugs and oil pac coil. It's even shut off engine light came on. Got it towed to sons of kia. Had it diagnosis and was told it's needed sparkplugs and coil pac replacement. Full tune-up. Oil change. Later. Having the same issues. Having to continue replenish oil. Over and over. Where is it going. Oil sputtering out of my tail pipe. Oil and water from tail pipe. Took it to amoco transmission. For diagnosis and was told that this need to be reported to kia. A major recall. Oil is burning from engine issues. My sparkplugs are loaded with oil and coil pac. Why I've always got my oil changed every due time. Later after 300-400 miles. I'm having to add oil again. Something wrong with this. I travel and my wife have to check oil consumption every week to make sure oil is in the car. She's very stressful about this situation. The car be studder when this happens. And some time want crank. It's nothing of her end. It's the manufacturer of the car. Burning oil consumption. And now its at amoco transmission waiting on what's next. Truly will love kia to do the right thing. My wife love's her kia. And are thinking about buying a SUV from kia in the future. My other paper work are in the car. Will update more information later.

Shortly after I purchase this vehicle, my driver side window stopped going up and down. I was disappointed but it was what it was there in about a month and a half later the rear passenger side, the rear driver side stop going up and down and then a week after that, the driver side front step going up and down if I knew it, none of my windows would go up and down if my air conditioner goes out, I am, in trouble I live in florida I cannot drive without air-conditioning or through the windows being able to go up and down. I made a complaint to kia. They hung up on me neither kia nor Honda where I purchased his car wants to do anything to assist me I have read the door multiple complaints regarding the windows and his cars. Why isn’t anything being done ?.

All four windows are not operational and ceased function within 2 months of the initial rear window failing. Three of the windows are currently propped up by door stops and the driver window is stuck all the way down. I spoke to kia dealership and they are familiar with the problem. It happens a lot in warm climates. They can repair all 4 windows for a cost of $2000. 00 to $2400. Kia vehicles are defective and dangerous because the power window regulators fail and cause the windows to fail. There is currently a class action lawsuit against kia for this issue. Michael le beau, et al. V. Kia America inc. , case no. 8:22-cv-01545 filed in California.

We received a recall notice for our kia Optima to get the software upgrade to restrict operation of the vehicle without a key. We took the car to the dealership on 5/5/2023 for the recall and picked it up on 5/5/2023 from the dealership at 3:30pm. On 5/8/2023 our car was stolen out of our driveway. It was recovered on 5/12/2023 by our local police dept. And it was stolen by using a usb cord and starting it without the key. Obviously the recall does not work. There is now damage inside and out of my car. I did notify kia corporation last week that it had been stolen and have not heard from them. I also sent an email this morning letting them know that the car was returned and confirmed that they stole it they way the recall was suppose to fix so that it could only be started with the key in the ignition. Obviously that did not work.

I most recently started noticing that my oil changes were not lasting at around 46,174 miles. I found this to unusual in a car with low mileage. I had to result to buying oil from a local store. The light indicator started coming on when ever I apply the brakes. When I checked my oil, it was completely dry. So I started monitoring the oil intake, even after I had oil changes at the dealership in which I mentioned that it appears to be taking in an excessive amount of oil. What I noticed was that I was adding oil every week. I did not detect any outward appearance of a leak. In addition, I experienced on several occasion what felt like the car was having a seizure. As soon as I filled up the gas tank. The car froze up, steering wheel would not move and the car was in drive but not accelerating. I immediately shut the engine off, then restarted the car. That seem to alleviate the problem for that time. It then got really bad, that it shook and was running rough as if it was falling apart. So I drove it the dealership, explained the two problems I had, running rough and a high level of oil being used in between oil changes. I was given a diagnosis on cylinders misfiring and needing spark plugs replacement, and ignition coils. Nothing about the oil issue. I was later told that would be an additional diagnosis charge to check. I asked about engine warranty and possible complaints or recalls, and was told that my issues would not be covered under the warranty. I purchased the items they indicated needed to be addressed and took my car to someone else. That's where it was discovered, when the spark plugs were removed, that oil was sitting in each pocket or cup that holds the spark plugs. All of them were soaked in oil. Though the spark plugs have been replaced and the rough shaking of the car has subsided, the acceleration is still questionable and I'm still having to fill my car with oil weekly. I'm not due for oil change until 51,174 miles and I'm currently at 51, 098.

The vehicle was sold to me with a known recall issues. I have taken it to the kia dealership close to me during the recall time period. They never told me about this issue coming up on their system. There was a certain time period that the recall was supposed to fixed, now kia is telling me that it's my financial responsibility to fix.

Unknown. My oil light started to turn on while I was still 1200 miles before my next oil change. I check the level of my oil and it was completely empty.

Window stop working and will not stay up.

Driver window back window (driver side) passenger window won’t let down and need window regulators. I’ve had one replaced before.

Right passenger window dropped down. It came off regulator track for no reason with a child in a car seat sitting at that window putting that child's safety at risk.

On sept. 21, 2021, my kia Optima hybrid ex shut down and would not start. I took it to king of hybrid ev auto repair where they ran a diagnostic test and found that there was an issue with the hybrid system affecting the transmission and the high-voltage system. I paid $3,000. 00 out-of-pocket. On October 26, 2022, while driving 75mph on hwy 15 to las vegas, my car randomly shut down. The dash warning lights read "stop vehicle to charge battery". I was in an unsafe position with cars speeding past me. I was afraid that I would be rear-ended by another car. I had to have my car towed. I believe that these cars have issues with faulty high voltage systems and transmissions. Please investigate. Thank you.

Unknown driver’s window does not operate either up or down. . Making a noise when I tried to put the window down in order to open it. Only 23,700 mileage on my 2016 Optima this is a safety issue and my VIN number needs to be placed on the recall list. There has been a gear breakage issue on 2016 Optima I cannot afford to repair this, being a senior citizen on fixed income.

On Saturday, 09/17, I took my vehicle in for a standard oil change & alignment with a 3-party mechanic (pepboys). Once the work was done I was informed by the mechanic that the driver's side window was in the down position and would not go back up. I was informed that it was because the regulator went out and it is a kia only part. Kia is unavailable on the weekends so they would get the part on Monday. On Tuesday, 09/20 pepboys was able to get the part and repair the window to the tune of $822. 67. The part alone was $542. Today, Thursday, 09/22 on my drive into work the back driver's side window began to slide down while I was driving. This is a severe safety hazard that needs to be address by kia. The window regulators will fail without warning & while the vehicle is in motion. I have 60k miles, this is not a high mileage vehicle.

Paint of the hood of my kia Optima started peeling off as of sept 5th,2022, there are small peelings on top of car and trunk. Took car to mvp paint&body, san benito, TX to see if I needed to make an appt and he stated that he has dealt with this kind of problem and insurance companies and dealerships are paying for damages. I called bert ogden kia in harlingen and they told me there was no paint recall and until I got a letter to bring vehicle and letter. This is my dilemma and will now contact my car insurance carrier, texas farm bureau, san benito,TX to see if they can help, I don't want this to get worse and car gets rusty with more problems.

I purchased this vehicle about a year ago upon purchasing vehicle I noticed I was having to get an oil change every other week and when I would go in I would have no oil. Fast forward to now I am buying 5g oil from advance auto parts every week my car is burning through oil excessively and causing my sparks plugs and coils to go bad from the oil. I have had to get my coils and sparks plug replaced three times in 5 months. I took the vehicle to get an oil consumption test at the conway kia dealership and they said nothing was wrong which is inaccurate because no car is burning 5 g oil each week. My car is currently at 80,000 miles I know once it reach 100,000 my warranty voids and at that point im left with no recourse on this vehicle.

Two of the four window regulators failed. The rear windows fell down within weeks of each other. The car has 46000 miles and the rear windows are rarely used. It appears to be a known defect according to the internet. I contacted kia and they said to notify NHTSA.

My odometer is going fast. Odometer is rolling very fast. Say if I travel 5-miles odometer registering 15 miles. Calibrate odometer.

My 2016 is burning excessive oil. To the point I have to put oil in every 3 days.

While driving down major highway the engine failed and the electrical system started blinking and I lost all power. No warning, dashboard just lit all up and engine seized up.

Every window in my car has come off track within a 3months time period . The motor steady runs in the door and the window will not move up or down.

My dealership has confirmed oil consumption on my vehicle.

Issues with all of the window regulators stop working. The gears in the regulators are plastic and become dry rot and strip out not allowing the windows to function.

My car keeps running out of oil. I've taken it to kia and my mechanic. Both said I need a new engine. My car is hard to drive. I'm putting oil in my car after 200 miles because it's almost empty after having oil changes. I use 8 quarts of oil every time . My car drives horrible. I'm afraid it's gonna shut off on me when I'm driving and it's gonna cause an accident. I'm scared to drive it anymore and I owe 2 yrs left on it. I need a new engine and it's all been happening to my car after 1 yr of having it.

The windows on my car drop on their own while I am driving. First it happened on the driver's window which surprised me because it was so abrupt, I almost had an accident. I had that one repaired and it happened to the two rear windows. I have a grandson who is a toddler and the first time it happened it was pouring down rain. The baby started screaming from being pelted with rain and I couldn't pull over fast enough. I contacted kia they referred me to a dealer who wanted $264 to look at it and $600 per window to repair their defect. My mechanic confirmed the problem stating it is a common issue with certain kia's this one included. The vehicle is available for inspection, but I can't afford to pay the diagnostic fee or fix this. Kia needs to repair their faulty windows.

I have a pearl white vehicle paint is pealing on passenger back seat door.

There is a known issue with this motor burning oil in the engine at an excessive rate. This caused my car to shut down on the California freeway from 65 mph. Warranty wont cover, dealership says its a manufacturer issue that is known and the manufacturer isn't replacing the problem engines. This is a life safety matter.

This is a complaint about the paint chipping on my 2016 kia Optima fe. I drove through some pretty heavy rain in December 2021 and ever since this my front bumper has been chipping away. Every time it rains, the paint chips get even larger. I'm very familiar with the class action lawsuit against kia for their paint chipping (specifically on the pearl white cars which is the color of my car). Attached are the pictures I took when it first happened. It is exponentially worse now.

In November of 2021 at about 18500 miles the right rear window regulator drive gear disentigrated and the entire regulator had to be replaced. In decemeber of 2021 at about 19700 miles the right front window regulator disintigrated and had to be replaced. The first 2 photos are the December failure the 3rd is the December failure I found it interesting that the same year model kia has a recall for the exact same problem. Here is the link. Https://static. Nhtsa. Gov/odi/tsbs/2020/mc-10176915-0001. Pdf I am attaching photos of both failures. I have in my posession the front regulator if you want to examine it I will not dispose of it until I hear from you.

Misfire– oil on the spark plug caused misfire. Check engine light came on. Obdii scanner show a p0302 trouble code. Eventually the engine misfired enough and lead to a backfire. This also led to decreased fuel mileage, catalytic converter damage, and blue exhaust smoke.

Oil light comes on after oil change. Check engine light comes on and the car feels like it going to quit or stall when going down high way.

All the window regulators continue to turn but the windows stay down and won't go up. Leading cause, the gear that connects to the motor and window regulator wires is plastic and erdes over time causing it to shred itself. Now my windows will not go up.

Pearl white paint peeling in chunks of hood. All four window regulators went out within six months. Transmission had to be replaced hard shift rear end motor replaced.

I'm about to replace my third window accuator on this car. The first one that failed was the rear passenger side at 54000 miles. The window was rarely if ever used, failed any way. The second failed at 60,000 miles. . Driver side rear. Like the first, rarely used window. Now the third has failed at 66,000 miles. Cost to replace, over $300 because a $5 sprocket fails. Windows failing is definitely a safety issue.