Assist Problems of Tesla Model 3 - part 2

I am writing to provide feedback on the recent mandated Tesla full self driving software update (recall). When I keep both hands on the steering wheel, I now get constant warnings. Specifically, even when I drive with both hands firmly on the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock and maintaining what I feel is adequate control, the system nags me with disruptive alerts. It tells me to apply pressure and flashes visuals that my hands are not properly positioned, despite both remaining clearly in contact with the wheel the whole time. I typically drive responsibly with proper grip, yet these frequent notifications are frustrating and stress-inducing. The sensors seem to be calibrated too sensitively if they are detecting grip issues when both my hands are correctly and securely holding the wheel. Prior to the mandated update, I didn't receive nearly as many warnings. The update was not helpful and makes driving more stressful and less safe if anything. I understand the goal is to enforce safe driving, but the current warnings are excessive even when drivers are maintaining proper hand positioning. Perhaps the regulations could be relaxed so alerts only activate when grip is legitimately inadequate, rather than routinely throughout normal driving. Please let me know if any further details on my experience with both hands on the wheel would be helpful. I would be happy to provide additional information to aid review of this system. Thank you for your consideration.

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Dear NHTSA, I am contacting you regarding campaign #23v-838 and the recent Tesla software update, which I believe has compromised the safety features of my Tesla Model 3. For over two years, I’ve trusted my Tesla’s capabilities, notably its autopilot feature. However, the latest update has introduced a wheel detection system that’s overly sensitive and disruptive. Previously, my driving experience was smooth, responsible and safe, with hands on the wheel and autopilot assist for when I needed to make blind lane changes, allowing me to look over my shoulder briefly at the blind spot while the wheel kept straight without rear ending anyone. Now, with this mandated update, I’m forced to make frequent, forceful adjustments to the steering wheel. I can’t look away from the front of the car even briefly to check my surroundings. This constant intervention and forbidding drivers from looking around to check for safety is distracting and dangerous, leading to abrupt autopilot disengagements and brief rapid ways in which the car behaves as the car disengages and throws you into manual when you weren’t expecting it. This isn’t just about inconvenience; it’s a safety hazard. I’m now more focused on maintaining autopilot than on the road and surrounding conditions. This undermines the very purpose of the feature. As someone who’s always vigilant about my surroundings, especially at intersections, I find this update counterproductive. It forces me to turn off the feature, leaving me without the assistance that I’ve come to rely on for safer driving. I urge you to review this matter with utmost priority. The balance between driver engagement and the autopilot system’s safety has been significantly disturbed by this update. Necessary adjustments are needed to prevent potential accidents and ensure that this technology continues to enhance driving safety and efficiency. Thank you for addressing this critical issue.

Something occurred with the steering, automatic braking, or lane keeping assistance on 01/10/2024 at approximately 6:35am while I was driving my 2022 Tesla Model 3 long range north in the carpool lane just south of the 106th off ramp in sandy utah. The roads were a little slick so was proceeding cautiously at around 65 mph when the car turned to the left slightly, then immediately to the right, which caused it to do a 180 degree turn in the same lane, I wasn't sure what was going on as the car felt like it was driving itself. Before I knew what was happening, the car then veered to the east across three lanes of traffic while driving backwards, it then stopped just as it was struck in front of the wheel on the front drivers side by a two trailer semi-truck which spun the car around. Luckily I was conscious so could slowly limp across the last couple lanes to the right side of the road where I called 911. I've driven all kinds of cars in all kinds of conditions and in many countries in the nearly 32 years I've been a licensed driver and have never lost control of a vehicle, I'm sure the steering or lane assist was trying to intervene so must've somehow inadvertently caused the crash! it's only through the grace of god that I'm still alive to tell about it! also, none of the airbags went off even though the impact from the semi was very jarring!.

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Autopilot feature is now unstable as I get constant nags if I look away for a few seconds to check my surroundings or check my navigation. I have been locked out of the feature multiple times over the past week forcing me to make navigation changes while manually driving.

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I am writing to bring to your attention a concerning issue regarding the recent update related to recall alerts in my vehicle, which has inadvertently led to an increase in distraction while driving. I received a software update for my vehicle, which included new features aimed at enhancing autopilot alerts. However, instead of improving safety, these updates have unintentionally resulted in an increased level of distraction while driving. Issues identified: frequency of alerts: the frequency of recall alerts has become excessive, leading to a constant stream of notifications while driving. This has proven to be highly distracting and has compromised my ability to focus on the road. Alert presentation: the visual and auditory presentation of the alerts is intrusive and often occurs excessively during driving. The alerts are not sufficiently streamlined to ensure minimal disruption, causing a significant distraction. Impact on driving behavior: the continuous alerts have forced me to divert attention away from the road, leading to an increased risk of accidents and compromising overall road safety. Recommendations: as per most other vehicle brands that benefit from self-driving technologies, like Cadillac and Ford, they are not affected by this recall, and do not make the driver continually look at the display for information regarding to the alert. Intelligent alert timing: incorporate a Smart algorithm that considers the driving context before issuing an alert. This can prevent alerts during critical driving moments, reducing distraction. Comprehensive testing: conduct thorough testing of software updates before release to identify and address any unintended consequences, such as increased distraction. Before this update, it was a lot less distracting to drive this vehicle, due to the limited notifications. Since this update, I've found myself removing my eyes from the road because of the increased notifications. A reversal of this recall is in need.

I am writing to report urgent safety concerns with my 2018 Tesla Model 3, software version 2023. 44. 30. 5. 1, after the NHTSA recall on autopilot functionality. I have owned my vehicle for over 4 years and have never had concerns with the adas / auto-pilot / auto-steering functionality until the NHTSA required changes in December 2024. While driving on I-405 in garden grove, CA, my vehicle while in adas / auto-steering / autopilot made repeated and unusually persistent attempts to change from lane 4 to lane 3. I had to manually cancel each attempt, despite my speed being set to match traffic flow. This issue never arose before the software update for the NHTSA recall. Moreover, the vehicle consistently signaled for driver attention, despite my full attention to the road, a concerning new behavior post-update. The need to frequently override these undesired maneuvers forced me to disable the adas autopilot/auto-steering. This puts me and my vehicle occupants at risk, as I believe the adas system, functioning correctly pre-recall update, safely maintained distance from vehicles ahead and did not make unintended maneuvers to change lanes. These issues suggest the recall modifications adversely affect autopilot functionality, creating safety hazards. This is especially alarming given the potential for serious accidents due to unexpected lane changes and false driver attention alerts. I urge the NHTSA to reconsider the recall modifications to Tesla's auto-steer/autopilot adas features. It's crucial that recall adjustments do not jeopardize vehicle and vehicle occupants safety. A comprehensive review of the recall's impact is needed, potentially leading to an amendment or reversal, to ensure the safety of Tesla users and other road users.

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Dear NHTSA representative, I am writing to express my deep concerns and seek resolution regarding the latest version of autopilot enforced in the recent Tesla recall, identified under campaign id #23v-838. I am a Tesla owner that’s deeply invested in the safety and functionality of my vehicle. Recent reports indicate that the mandated autopilot update has rendered the car unsafe and nearly undrivable with autopilot engaged. Disturbingly, users have reported false warnings, causing drivers to divert their attention from the road and react to incorrect information. This poses a significant safety risk to drivers, passengers, and others on the road. I wish to bring to your attention that the autopilot feature in my vehicle is currently usable, and I am hesitant to compromise its functionality based on the reported issues with the mandated update. It is disconcerting that a safety recall mandated by the NHTSA could potentially make my vehicle less safe for me and my family. I urge the NHTSA to conduct a thorough investigation into the safety implications of the autopilot update and to consider the concerns raised by Tesla owners seriously. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. I look forward to a swift resolution that prioritizes the safety and satisfaction of Tesla owners. Sincerely, a Tesla owner.

Cabin facing camera required for using autopilot stopped working after software update requiring cabing camera usage. Technician has stated that many cameras have had to be replaced since the update requiring the use of the cameras.

While in fsd the car swerved to the left and hit a tree. Youtube of the crash. . Https://youtu. Be/as9evo5vztu.

Since NHTSA forced Tesla to update their driver attention monitoring, I can no longer change the radio station without the car screaming at me. This is jarring and unsafe as it surprises me when there is no danger present! NHTSA’s requirement for Tesla change this behavior for “safety” is unsafe! allow Tesla to roll back this change now!.

So thanks to your interference my autopilot on my Tesla is broken. . . You guys think you are making our cars safer by getting your controlling poorly educated stupid hands into Tesla systems that are designed to be more safe. On paper Tesla autopilot is factually proven to be more safe than a human driver, these reports are publicly available perhaps your team was too lazy to read them. My car disengaged autopilot randomly while driving with 2 cars behind me and freaked out and told me I was not paying enough attention to the road just because I reached to unlock my phone screen. . . Not even pick it up off the wireless charging pad. . . Just unlocked the screen. So thanks to your agencies interference and forcing Tesla to levy this bogus "recall fix" on us I almost got rear-ended. . . In the car I work so hard to pay for, the car that I love because it keeps me and my family safe because guess what we are humans and not robots. Just as you do and everyone in your agency we all have to look at our phones briefly while driving because we live lives where we have to make sure those we love are ok or make sure our phone is charged for when we reach our destination. You are going to do exactly the opposite of your agencies supposed mission of keeping us safe. You will kill people with this stupid "recall". Get your crap together and tell Tesla to reverse autopilot back to its normal safe operating parameters and stop banning people from autopilot otherwise there are going to be a lot more wrecks and deaths. I'm not saying you should be taking duck selfie pictures for social media with your phone while in autopilot on a rural back road. . . That person deserves to be a victim of modern natural selection. But what your doing is over-controlling and you have no right to dabble in things you obviously don't understand. Your agency should be ashamed of itself, you are about as efficient as our government is at managing money. . . Fix it back.

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Subject: safety concerns regarding recent Model 3 autopilot update to whom it may concern at the national highway traffic safety administration (NHTSA), I am writing to urgently express my concerns about the latest software update for the Tesla Model 3’s autopilot system, which, in my view, significantly compromises safety. As a Model 3 owner, I have generally found the vehicle and its features to be reliable and safe. However, the recent update has introduced an overly stringent hands-on-wheel detection mechanism that is not only inconvenient but also potentially hazardous. The new update requires frequent and often forceful interaction with the steering wheel to assure the system of driver presence. This change is drastically different from my previous experience, where I received only one hands-on-wheel violation in two years. The current sensitivity of the system disrupts the smooth operation of the autopilot, leading to frequent and abrupt disengagements. I have found myself struggling to maintain the system’s activation, inadvertently causing the vehicle to exit autopilot mode multiple times. This issue goes beyond mere inconvenience; it actively detracts from driving safety. The need for constant and sometimes aggressive adjustments to satisfy the system’s requirements is distracting and can lead to erratic vehicle behavior. The irony is stark: a system designed to enhance driving safety and ease is now a source of potential danger and stress. The unpredictability and over-sensitivity of the updated system could lead to dangerous situations, especially on highways or in heavy traffic, where sudden disengagement of the autopilot can be particularly risky. As a driver, I now find myself more focused on keeping the autopilot engaged than on the actual driving conditions and surroundings, which is surely contrary to the feature’s intended purpose. Please fix this issue. It is bad for everyone.

Your latest mandates has arguably made the car less safe by removing what allowed the system to operate safely. Please roll back this “recall” it’s not a recall in the slightest it’s a shot at someone or multiple people that dislike Tesla.

The fix for recall 23v-838; tc2023-657 has made using the feature more unsafe to use than in previous iterations.

Autopilot now requires so much force to confirm you have your hands on the wheel it’s disengages causing rapid deceleration and steering into the other lane or shoulder. Also requires confirmation at times when the driver should be looking at mirrors when passing etc instead of watching the display.

I am writing to urgently express my concerns about the latest software update for the Tesla Model 3’s autopilot system, which, in my view, significantly compromises safety. As a Model 3 owner for over two years, I have generally found the vehicle and its features to be reliable and safe. However, the recent update has introduced an overly stringent hands-on-wheel detection mechanism that is not only inconvenient but also potentially hazardous. The new update requires frequent and often forceful interaction with the steering wheel to assure the system of driver presence. This change is drastically different from my previous experience, where I received only one hands-on-wheel violation in two years. The current sensitivity of the system disrupts the smooth operation of the autopilot, leading to frequent and abrupt disengagements. I have found myself struggling to maintain the system’s activation, inadvertently causing the vehicle to exit autopilot mode multiple times. This issue goes beyond mere inconvenience; it actively detracts from driving safety. The need for constant and sometimes aggressive adjustments to satisfy the system’s requirements is distracting and can lead to erratic vehicle behavior. The irony is stark: a system designed to enhance driving safety and ease is now a source of potential danger and stress. The unpredictability and over-sensitivity of the updated system could lead to dangerous situations, especially on highways or in heavy traffic, where sudden disengagement of the autopilot can be particularly risky. As a driver, I now find myself more focused on keeping the autopilot engaged than on the actual driving conditions and surroundings, which is surely contrary to the feature’s intended purpose. You need to investigate this issue as a matter of urgency. Adjustments are necessary to prevent potential accidents and ensure that the tech helps, not hinders.

Summary: fsd malfunctioned, failed to disengage, causing loss of steering control, thus causing car to steer into wrong lane and resulting in an accident. Tesla service center refused to inspect unless car is fixed. Car was sent to crash champions ( autobody shop) and was quoted $35k to fix. Car was deemed as totaled by Tesla insurance. No response from fsdbeta@Tesla. Com I suspect that the latest fsd software update has caused my car to lose control. Time of incident: 19:28 pm location : wildwood Ave, sunnyvale Ave. Entering from lawrence expressway. Weather condition: clear night, well lit. Low traffic. What happened:? my car has been driving in fsd on lawrence expressway and it was doing everything correctly. Approaching that upcoming tight bend, the fsd slowed down the car, and I took over by steering the steering wheel to the right to deactivate fsd and taking the tight turn, right before the white rows of triangles on the street. At this moment, the steering wheel forcibly turned to the opposite direction (I. E. Left). I tried to correct the steering wheel by turning right even more, but the steering wheel wasn’t responding to my input for a split second. At this moment, my car is now on the wrong lane of wildwood Ave and my car finally responded to my steering input. I had to swerve in the opposite direction to avoid the incoming traffic and ended up brushing against an SUV, followed by an impact on the curb, before finally slowing down. Seeing that there was incoming traffic from the back, I drove down to a residential street to park my car for safety reason. The SUV driver called the police to handle the situation, we had our information and testimonies recorded down. I have already followed the safe practices of driving with fsd according to the manual, but in this situation, I am not certain which technology is responsible for causing my car to override my manual steering input. This led to me to question the driver safety systems in this car.

Over several occasions, this Model 3 Tesla has engaged the brakes heavily while using the autopilot, lane-assist function. This has always happened while going highway speeds. The braking is very abrupt and without any apparent reason (nothing in the front or beside the car). I do not recall this occurring unless the autopilot function is enabled. I am able to disengage the system and take control, but it's an alarming and unsafe glitch in the software.

Louisiana 425 north. Inside lane. Yellow line remained solid on my left. There wer no striped lines for the car to follow to continue straight as we approached on full self driving. At highway speed the car veered into the turn lane. I immediately took control and prevented encountering the embankment. Dangerous situation. Tesla did what it was supposed to do. Louisiana highway engineers not so much. I have never encountered this in any of the other six states I have driven in. Tesla fsd will always stay in the lane if there are striped lines for it to follow on the outside of the lane,eg, when passing exit ramps. Thanks.

I was driving on the garden state parkway in new jersey in the right hand lane. I was using basic auto pilot and needed to pass a pick up truck in front of me. I disabled auto pilot and went into the left lane. I re-engaged auto pilot and the vehicle took a hard right and hit the truck. I heard the audible chime once it made contact with the truck indicating that auto pilot disengaged. My car went back into the left lane and I took control. We moved to the shoulder and waited for state police to arrive. Luckily no one was injured. A police report was filed.

Have reported multiple times the safety hazard with the unnacuracy of the mileage given per charge. Vehicle will drain through battery leaving motorist standard. When using self drive option vehicle will not stay in appropriate lanes. Vehicle will overheat on battery and start making concerning sounds while driving. When reported to Tesla they acknowledged the issue but have failed to fix the issues on the vehicle.

Electrical system rebooted in the middle of driving: screen went off couldn't signal I swayed to the side and waited till the screen came back on after 3 minutes.

Ul_a022_apefusesetc audience [service-fix, factory) description driver assistance ecu (ape) is not fused or not locked or missing credentials set condition driver assistance ecu is not fused or not locked or missing credentials clear condition driver assistance ecu is fused, locked and has proper credentials potential impact driver assistance ecu is in an unsecured state (unfused).

The automatic windshield wipers came on and would not shut off. The car was clean, the day was sunny, and the camera lenses were free of dust or anything else that could cover them. While driving along, the wipers started and would not shut off. I went into the main monitor/screen that has the wiper settings but I was not able to activate the wiper/off button, so the wipers kept working. Pressing on that button would not activate it. I was in autopilot at the time, I. E. , cruise control + lane keep assistance. I have fsd/full self driving, but have never used it since it is still in beta testing. I’m using Tesla software # 2023. 7. 10 I checked the various Tesla websites, and you can turn off the wipers only if you disable the adas features. After I turned off the adas, I was able to activate the wiper/off button. But this is a terrible situation, the adas needs to be activated, but if I activate, it wipers will begin working whenever they feel like it, regardless of the weather outside. This is clearly a software problem with the Tesla adasn needs to be corrected. I don’t want to be driving along with auto pilot on, and then the wipers will simply turn on. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated to correct this dangerous situation. There are countless hundreds of complaints like this on the various Tesla websites about spontaneously functioning wipers when the weather is bright and sunny.

Vehicle was being moved across the parking lot in summon mode. It crossed a parking aisle and went into the next aisle, striking a parked vehicle with a passenger inside.

Driving in full self driving mode, the vehicle made a left turn into oncoming traffic.

Car steering felt stuck and slid off the road which resulted in crashing into a tree. Tesla features did not help stay in the lane or break in an emergency.

An incident occurred in April of 2023 while running fsd beta 11. 3. 6 firmware. I have been unable to retest this location on more recent software, so this concern may have been mitigated with a subsequent update. As seen in the video, the yellow lane marking on the left transitioned from the roadway up onto the movable center median. Once on the bridge, the left repeater camera and the center display visualization both illustrate the lane centering was definitely biased towards the left side of the lane, a possible indication the vision-based lane centering was miscued by the yellow line now appearing on the barrier instead of the road surface. This left bias brought the vehicle uncomfortably close to the barrier, which resulted in a manual takeover. It is difficult to judge based on the low resolution of the repeater camera view, but my estimation is that the tires were approximately 12 inches away from the protruding bottom lip of the barrier. . Read more...

The lane keeping assistance will send the car jerking left or right without reason or warning. (I’m not sure if the car is reacting to a shadow on the road or for some other reason. ). This has occurred a number of times with an abrupt and violent movement. The last time this occurred was at around 6:50pm on Wednesday April 5, 2023 while driving westbound approaching the northernmost palm beach island bridge. The car made a violent and completely unnecessary shift out of the lane and I had to make a forceful corrective steering response that scared both myself and my passenger.

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The car has fsd beta - when exiting on freeway off ramp numerous error codes came on and car lost ability to steer effectively. The car was not in autopilot mode when the incident occured.

Driving in full self driving made a sharp unexpected last second turn directly into a pilón at 30 mph causing front end damage. I have the the incident recorded on video from the Tesla. Full self driving did not disengage prior to crash and hands were on the wheel, it just happened within . 5 seconds and there was no way to react in time. I reported to Tesla many times and was ignored here is a link to the video https://share. Icloud. Com/photos/0b5kipcy1cqmurqw_6bzzdhog.

Near miss: intervention by emergency lane assist almost caused a collision. Location- southbound highway 99 near turlock, CA, around 9 am (sun low and ahead). Construction is underway on the highway. Traffic id two lanes in each direction with narrow lanes and concrete k rails dividing the highway. My vehicle was in the fast lane going around a left hand bend with the temporary concrete divider close to the left side of the car. The barrier is uneven in this area and was relatively jagged rather than smoothly paralleling the highway. As I rounded the bend the emergency lane assist sounded a warning and simultaneously turned the wheel sharply to the right as if to avoid striking the center barrier (I was not on an impact trajectory). At that moment I was slowly passing a semi-trailer the was close to my vehicle in the left hand lane. I was roughly 3/4 of the way back from the from the front of the truck. The sharp right swerve from the emergency lane assist put me onto a collision course with the side of the semi- if I had not reacted quickly to counter-correct I believe I’d have gone into the side of the truck. Autopilot or lane assist was not engaged (I don’t have it) and my hands were on the wheel allowing quick reaction. Lane departure warning was not active (turned off), emergency lane assist was active. I did not try to recreate the issue and it has not been confirmed.

Interior camera malfunctions which affects the full self driving package I paid for. As purchased the car was said to be feature complete for full self driving. When the software was available to me two years after purchase the interior camera was finally turned on and it doesn’t work. A cursory internet search shows that this is common. This is a hazard it can malfunction at any time due to defective camera. The service center verified that the camera doesn’t work today 1/27/2023.

Within a week of posting a complaint here about phantom braking while in autopilot, my autopilot was disabled. Does the NHTSA share VIN numbers with the manufacturer? because that sure felt like retaliation by Tesla.

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I took deliver of the Model 3 performance in late October 2022 and have experienced phantom braking at least a dozen times over the last few months on the highway/interstate when using cruise control and Tesla’s standard autopilot, which keeps the vehicle centered in the lane. The phantom braking has occurred both in times with just the cruise control enabled and also when both cruise and autopilot have been enabled. The vehicle has slowed from 70 to 60 and even 50 miles per hour very quickly when there was no object nearby that would cause a collision. This is both frightening and upsetting, as such sudden braking could cause an accident, especially with any car following me from behind. I am fearful to use the cruise or autopilot as a result of this defect.