Automatic Transmission Control Module Problems of Ford Freestar - part 2

Driving approximately 65 mph on a two hour trip and experienced a sudden but brief loss of acceleration, speed immediately dropped by 15 mph, which was accompanied by a severe jerk. The occurred two more times during the trip at high speeds and subsequently continued to occur the following days during normal neighborhood driving conditions (20 ? 40 mph). I have taken the car to a Ford dealer to be checked out as I thought this could be related to the recently announced torque converter output shaft recall (recall campaign number: 11s25). The dealer has diagnosed the problem to be related to water intrusion into the pcm housing. Unfortunately this appears to be common problem with the Ford Freestar.

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I started my van and tried to back out of my parking spot and it would not go anywhere. I turned off the engine, sat for about 5 min and then tried again. This time it backed up, I was able to pull up to the street and when I went to pull out, it sputtered and stalled. I had it towed to a transmission place and they said that it wasn't the transmission, it was the pcm. I had it towed to the dealership and told them it was the pcm. They insisted on running a diagnostic because it couldn't be the pcm, they have never seen that before. They found out it was the pcm and now I have to pay for a diagnostic that wasn't necessary. I have to pay for a design flaw that caused the problem to be fixed and pay to have the pcm replaced. The transmission shop that diagnosed the problem did not charge me anything for his work. My extended warranty company is paying half of the repair even though it isn't a covered repair and yet Ford will not waive or cover any of the problem that is their design flaw. Why are customers not informed of TSB's that could have prevented the problem? I am very lucky this happened in the parking lot instead of on the highway. This problem could have been fixed with a tube of silicone. Why was the TSB not completed before the vehicle was sold to me as a used vehicle in may 2011? is there a recall to fix this problem in the works? is there a class action lawsuit I can join? is there anything being done to fix this problem before someone dies?.

1) we now have transmission failure. The cost to repair equals most of the vehicle's value. 2) driver-side passenger door closes and opens again continually. We get out and do that manually. 3) with foot off accelerator, going down hills, the Freestar transmission has "chugged" for a couple of years now, reproduce-able at dealer last year but they could not find cause (we ran out of money letting them study it). . . . We now know these things are all related. Research online shows other owners have found wet pcm to be promulgating cause for door sensors and the cause for premature failure of transmission due to damage caused by pcm over time. To put pcm below windshield, without proper waterproof housing, this is a design error that causes very, very expensive damage and repairs that will be required again, without pcm being touched. Dealers repair damage (not cause) under warranty, but most of us are now out of warranty. We've only got 74000 very well-cared for miles. Problem is the vehicle is now not drivable; transmission is shot. Ford refuses to make good for us. . Read more...

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While on the highway, at about 35 mph, my 2004 Ford Freestar died. I was able to coast into a side street without power. After about 10 minutes, I was able to restart the vehicle, but it ran roughly for several minutes and then behaved normally until two days later when the transmission would not engage in any gear. I thought it was a transmission problem. The vehicle was towed home and the tow truck driver said it was behaving like there was a problem with the computer. Apparently he has seen this problem before. Examination of the computer (pcm) and the attachment plug showed significant water entry. Water actually ran out of the plug and there was water in the pcm enclosure. After several days of drying time, the pcm was put back into the vehicle and the vehicle ran normally. Ford has issued a TSB that covers the problem of water getting into the pcm and cable, so I am sure it is a common occurrence. I believe that if the vehicle is allowed to set idle for a number of days, the pcm will dry out by itself and then run normally until the next rain storm. No doubt, many transmissions have been replaced in error, and the problem reoccurs when the pcm again gets wet. Loss of power on the highway means no power steering or power brakes, which can lead to loss of control of the vehicle. The location of the pcm lends itself to water entry and appears to me to be a design defect that Ford should address more forcefully than just to issue a technical service bulletin.

The contact owns a 2005 Ford Freestar. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle stalled and multiple warning lamps illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer. The technician diagnosed that the pcm module needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure but did not offer any assistance. The vehicle was not repaired. The VIN was not available. The failure mileage was 90,000 and the current mileage was 176,000.

When is the NHTSA going to get serious with Ford on forcing them to issue a recall on the pcm that shuts down the engine and puts the driver and passengers in a death vehicle. This is a known issue all over the internet as well as any master certified Ford technician. The pcm is under the cowling where the water settlers and get electrically wicked into the pcm shutting it down at any time under load in traffic freeway speeds. Just want to know if people have to die before something happens with a wildly known defect we bought this vehicle brand new because of the safety rating at the time for transportations our special needs son, I sure hope this issue doesn't end up with a death of my wife and children due to ,the lack of concern from the NHTSA. Waiting for a timely response and resolve.

Wife was driving home from work when the van just suddenly stalled. She was traveling at 35 mph when she lost all power. She then tried restarting the van and it started but when she tried to put it into gear the engine rpm's raced, then slammed into gear and then stalling again. The van was undriveable. She was able to get to the side of the road just feet before she would have been stranded on a narrow two lane bridge that is heavily traveled the logging and dump trucks. Had it towed to the repair shop for repairs. While doing research online about the issue I was surprised to find so many other have had the same issue possibly caused by water in the pcm module. The next morning I contacted the repair shop and advised them of my findings. Sure enough they where able to find the service bulletins from Ford about the issue 7 pages long. Several hours and $240 later the repair shop called and said the van was fixed and the could not believe the amount of water that came our when the sensor was removed. I cannot believe that Ford has not submitted a recall on this issue.

Every time it rained, my engine would shudder, shake, sometimes knock, the transmission would shift for no good reason, and I stalled out in traffic once. The vehicle became non-drivable when it rained (and only when it rained). I took the vehicle to my Ford dealer (schults Ford of harmarville, PA), where technician pat sand indicated that this is a known problem with Ford Freestars, and said a Ford service bulletin indicates that because of a manufacturing problem (incorrect sealer application to the pcm and poor position of pcm in relation to windshield run-off) water leakage into the program control module causes it to issue random commands and errors. They followed the Ford bulletin and by simply better sealing against moisture / blocking the water flow, resolved the problem. This is a safety issue and a known manufacturing defect.

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Was stalled out several times during the month of January and February of this year. It would just stop responding. It acted much like a transmission going out, but that was not the problem. After multiple towes and trips to the mechanic to attempt getting this vehicle repaired, it was determined that the pcm had gotten water inside and had to be replaced. I spent several thousand dollars trying to get this vehicle to run as well as it had before. Once the pcm issue was discovered, it did run much better, but by this time I had lost my faith in the vehicle. I cannot believe that Ford positioned a computer component where water would run down onto it, and they have not been forced to fix this issue. As a result of all of my problems with this vehicle, after many years of being a Ford owner, I sold this van and purchased a Chrysler town & country.

I do not write in inles but my problem is fails with code p0715 trenssmision and reverse cam sensor I change speed sensor transmission and the problem remains to uncover the pcm control to check the continuity I met you, as you have water intrusion as well as green particles around a pin input . Characteristics of water in combination with voltage,there are resistensia under 10000 homs addition of several pins that relasionan with solenoid of tranxale.

Abs warning lamp comes on, as well as the powertrain malfunction warning lamp, speedometer fails to register. . . . . . . Was told at local Ford dealership that pcm/ cluster would have to be replaced at a cost of $800-$1200. . . . . When problem began would do this upon cranking, and has gotten to the point that vehicle now has this happen while driving. Transaxle light is also illuminating. . . . . Which just discovered may be due to problems that are already covered in another recall. . . . . . . Very disappointed in our choice in this vehicle. After investigating this problem see that the design flaws in this vehicle should not be ignored, these system failures are of no fault of the owners and cause great safety concerns to the owners and passengers who have to depend on these vehicles on a daily basis.

My wife and I own a 2005 Ford windstar. On oct. 21 2011 my wife arrived home from work and I took the van to pick up my son from his school. Without warning the vans rpms went up and then the van stalled. I restarted the van but the van acted like it did not want to shift gears and the van stalled again. I was only 1block from home and was lucky to make it home while having to restart the van several times. I called the local Ford service center and they said to tow it there and it would cost $100 to hook it up to their computer. I love how it cost me $100 to have Ford tell me whats wrong then wants me to pay them to fix it. It only takes 5 minutes to hook up the computer with all the complaints I have seen you would think they should know. I was lucky to have a friend who works at Ford and he had to replace the pcm due to water coming into contact with the pcm. We got our van back on Thursday Nov. 3rd 2011. Then on Nov. 7th 2011(4 days later) my wife was on a busy interstate ramp getting ready to merge on the highway at about 45mph when the rpm's shot up the van hesitated and lost power she started coasting to the shoulder while traffic was speeding around her. It was also on a curve so traffic could not see her until they were right on top of her. Even on the shoulder when she called me she was terrified that someone was going to hit her because the shoulder was very narrow and traffic was within inches of the van. We had the van towed to Ford and they are going to take a look at it this Monday (Nov. 14, 2011) we are due to go out of town Friday Nov. 18th and we do not know if we will have a van to go on a vacation that has been planned for a year. My wife and I do not even know if we can trust our Ford Freestar to make the trip so we our going to have the extra expense of renting a car. We are out $750 so far and another $400 to rent a car. We have 83,000 mi.

Power control modual (pcm) gets wet due to poor design and transmission fails to work.

The contact owns a 2005 Ford Freestar. While driving approximately 40 mph the vehicle began to hesitate and exhibit a severe jerking motion. The vehicle was towed to an authorized dealer who stated the pcm needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired and within two days while driving in the rain the identical failure recurred; as a result water leaked into the pcm. The contact planned to take the vehicle back to the dealer to be repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 120,000.

After starting vehicle, very high rpm's. When put in drive it stalls out. Sitting at stop light it stalls out. Mechanic said, "pcm is bad. " it's not worth replacing if it's a design flaw. Us as consumers shouldn't have to pay for car manufactures mistakes!!.

My husband was driving on a 4 lane hwy in pensacola, FL when my 2004 Ford Freestar suddenly stopped pulling. No forward, no backwards, neutral, nothing and the rpms went extremely high. Zero warnings, and in heavy rush hour traffic. It is only due to my husbands race car driving experience and quick reaction time that he was immediately able to get the van on the side of the hwy. My husband and our two boys thankfully were safe but they were stranded in intense florida heat. I have had a lean fuel, various electrical, coil pack and pcm issues since I got the van June 2007. The Ford dealership, and the easterns dealership I purchased the van from, could not figure out the problems. While under warranty, easterns worked on it but none of the issues were ever able to be fixed. I choose the Freestar for its safety features so I knew I had a safe way to transport my children. This is no longer the case, I do not trust Ford to take care of their defective products and I will not purchase another Ford.

The contact owns a 2004 Ford Freestar. The contact stated the vehicle suddenly stalled immediately after it stopped. The vehicle was towed to the contacts home. The vehicle was not taken to the dealer for diagnostic testing. The vehicle was not repaired. There was an open investigation under NHTSA action number: pe10033 (vehicle speed control power, train:automatic transmission control module (tcm, pcm)) that may be related to the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 116,000.

Pcm (power train control module) has gotten wet and causes car to not drive. Lose power. Not start. Lunge, lurch forward. Won't engage in drive or reverse. I have replaced pcm 6 times. Broke down 5 times. Had van towed 5 times. Left van at repair shop for months at a time to diagnose problem. Finally moved the pcm to the inside of van so that it won't be effected by water. Ford has refused to acknowledge problem despite a TSB being issued. Furthermore, I replaced the transmission and a recall has been issued but Ford will not review my receipts for the transmission until letters go out. Total stonewalling by Ford.

2006 Ford Freestar failed to move forward in gear while driving on busy road. This occurred two different times. Most recent instance saw me and my 4 year old daughter placed in peril. I have had transmission replaced only to find that problems may be the result of the pcm failing as a result of getting "wet" due to a faulty seal on the box that houses the pcm. Most recent incident nearly resulted in our nearly being rear ended by a semit tractor trailer at 50 mph. Fortunately, I had the presence of mind to shift to neutral, restart van and coast off road just ahead of truck. Van stalled and would not run. Had to leave at garage out of town and get a ride home for my and my 4 year old daughter.

The contact owns a 2005 Ford Freestar. The contact was driving 50 mph when the vehicle stalled without warning. The contact drove in neutral to a local mechanic who advised that the fuel filter would need replacing. The vehicle was repaired but the failure recurred two weeks later. The vehicle was taken to a repair shop where the power control module was replaced but the failure persisted. The vehicle was towed back for inspection and the contact was advised by the mechanic that the transmission needed replacing. The transmission was replaced bu the failure was not corrected. It was then found that waster was entering the vehicle through the windshield and contacting the wiring for the power control. The mechanic removed the water from the tubes of the power control module and added caulk to prevent water intrusion. There was an investigation under NHTSA action number: pe10033 (vehicle speed control power train:automatic transmission:control module (tcm, pcm)) that could possibly have been related to the failure. The vehicle was repaired. The approximate failure mileage was 97,950.

A few months ago my check engine light came on and vehicle felt like it wanted to stall out, the computer at the shop said that there was a misfire, replaced spark plugs and wires, light went out, 2 days later light back on same thing, shop could find nothing else wrong with the van, we then went to another shop who after having it for a week and not being able to figure out the problem said it was an oxygen sensor, paid $460 to have this replaced, van ran great for 3 days then lght back on and same thing, within 2 days the light went back off, this happened on and off for months then finally 3 weeks ago while turning a corner, the van just died and lost power in the middle of an intersection, unable to go into reverse or anything was able to restart the van long enough to get out of intersection then it died again and was able to coast to side of road but was unable to put van in reverse, my normal mechanic could not figure out the problem the computer kept reading different error codes , he then took it to the local dealer, where they have now had it for 3 weeks and are unable to find anything wrong with it, they did admit that they have been having problems with the pcm getting wet but they cannot find anything wrong with it, it is now running, going into reverse and no check engine light (at this time). I was also told that this could lead to eventual transmission problems as well, so now I have to worry about driving it at all, because noone can fix it, so it will eventually do it again???.

My Ford Freestar has speratic issues, I have noticed that this issue only happens when it rains. I have taken it to mechanic and they are not able to locate the problem. I have been doing research online and notice that there is a lot of complaints about this issue and nothing is being done about it. We get the pcm replaced and then because of the defect it gets wet again. When will this issue be resolved?.

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2005 Ford Freestar 3. 9l 130,000 mile. While driving down major state route with my 6 year old in the car my engine just stopped, lost power steering, brakes but was able to pull over on side of road. Had to wait two hours for a tow truck to come. After shop inspected, they found the pcm was full of water and had to be replaced. Due to the complete loss of power this could have caused a tragic accident if my son and I would not have been able to get off the road.

Per Ford service: water in pcm 5/03/11 similar problem 7/15/10 although at the time Ford service was unable to find the cause. At about 20 miles per hour while making a right hand turn the engine stalled, the power steering and power brakes failed causing me to temporarily lose control and swerve into the on-coming lane. Luckily there was no traffic or pedestrians there at the time. Ford service found the cause to be water in the powertrain control module (pcm).

2004 Ford Freestar rpm's 3000 at idle. Diagnosed as water intrusion in original pcm (powertrain control module) in April of 2011. Water intrusion occurred on replacement pcm as well within 3 months because rain kit per service bulliten ( # TSB-06-14-10) was not installed at the Ford dealer. Second incident occurred with the replacement (new) pcm on 9/8/11. On 9/8/11 vehicled stalled out while in traffic. Replacement pcm diagnosed as water intrusion as well by different Ford. Second dealer noted rain kit had not been installed by 1st dealer when new pcm was put in. Second dealer installed kit, but vehicled stalled out in traffic once again on 9/17/11. Replacement (new) pcm had been contaminated prior to rain kit installation. Vehicle is now at the Ford dealer (that installed TSB rain kit) for 3rd pcm unit. Contact was made with the original dealer that installed the replacement pcm as well as Ford warranty department, and as of this date of 9/23/11 neither has accepted responsibility for failure to install the recommended TSB rain kit that caused the replacement (new) pcm failure. We were very fortunate that no one was hurt during the 2 incidents when the vehicle stalled out while in traffic. We will continue to pursue action to make the first Ford dealer / Ford motor company financially responsible for neglecting to install the rain kit per Fords service bulliten upon installation of the first new pcm unit.

2005 Ford Freestar pcm problems. Symptoms include intermittent incidences including vehicle's failure to start, running rough, improperly accelerating, refusing to move forward/backward, and other random problems. The fuel system components/camshaft sensor/etc, as well as the transmission have been replaced on the vehicle, but all of these issues still exist. Codes do not show up on mechanic's diagnostic computers unless the car is actively having the problem, which seems to rarely happen. Mechanics, including the local Ford dealership, has not been able to confirm the problem with the pcm; however, our mechanic did find water in the computer module. He dried it out and resealed it, in hopes of resolving the issues we were having. The problems have continued though and despite lack of codes, all indications are that the computer is no longer good. Another problem is the fact that getting a replacement pcm is nearly impossible. The demand for Freestar reconditioned computers is so high that we've not been able to find one to replace the bad unit in the van. (apparently, new pcm's are not available at all. ) after seeing the massive number of on-line complaints which are so similar to ours, I cannot believe that Ford shut the case regarding the computer problem. If the diagnosis of failed pcm's is almost impossible to achieve, Ford simply chooses to ignore the obvious. (read all of the complaints on NHTSA. Dot. Gov. ) poor placement of the pcm on the back of the vehicle wall has allowed water to run off of the windshield into the unit, but Ford will not take ownership in this problem. How many people have to risk having a wreck and possibly dying due to water-damaged components? it is unfortunate and unnecessary. One last question. . . Is it possible that the transmission problems (currently on recall) be related to the water-damaged pcm's?.

The vehicle starts fine, but as soon as I get to about 20mph, the vehicle stalls. I have taken the vehicle to the Ford dealership atleast four times. At first they said it was something in the transmission, then they said it was the tourque converter, finally they decided it was the pcm getting wet. They said they sealed the pcm to keep it from getting wet, but all they did was caulk around the brackets that fastens the wiper cow on. Finally after getting tired of taking the van back to the dealership, I decided to pull everything apart myself. What I discovered was the pcm is located in a place that it shouldnt be. It is located on the passenger side of the firewall under the wiper cow. Water runs behind the wiper cow directly on the pcm. I have contacted the dealership about it, but all they say is, " we cant do anything about it because there is no recall". I looked online to see if other people are having problems, and to no suprise, there are literally hundreds of consumers with the exact same issuses. I feel that this could potentualy be unsafe to motorists, simply because the entire vehicle shuts down as you are driving. When the vehicle shuts down, there is no longer power stering or power brakes, which makes it difficult to safetly control the vehicle. Please do what you can.

2005 Ford Freestar. Consumer writes in regards to a complaint to Ford motor company for a refund for repairs due to a faulty design the consumer stated moisture was seeping into the computer. The pcm wire harness had to be reflashed/reprogrammed.

My son drove the Freestar home the night of 3/20 and stated it was running a bit rough. The next morning my wife had a hard time starting the care to drive our daughter to school. Once she got the vehicle started and backed it out of the driveway the vehicle stalled in the middle of the street and was unable to restart. I had the vehicle towed to the Ford dealer and was actually able to start the van but it now had no reverse. The dealer had the van for 12 days and replaced the pcm. We got the van back and the check engine light came on immediately. The dealer now states that the wiring and connectors to the pcm are all soaked and they need to be dried and cleaned. After doing some research it appears that this is a known issue with the Freestar and that I was quite lucky as to the timing and location of the vehicle when it failed. I truly believe that this design flaw in this vehicle needs to be resolved by Ford prior to anyone getting injured.

We were running some errands on 3/4/11. It was raining . Different times I notice a little bit of hestiancy when leaving the malls & pulling away from stoplights & stopsigns. On 3/5/11 we were backing out of our driveway & prceeded to put in drive, van kinda of chug a lug and went maybe 30 ft & stop. Restarted van and it would do this all over again. Finally after about 5-6 times ,went around the block & parked it in driveway. Mileage is 80939. We had trouble like this in Jan 2011. Had it towed to lynch Ford, dealer charged us $150. 00 & could not find anythingwrong. Maybe because it was inside the dealership & got dried out . Mileage approx 77800 back in March 2010, the transmission was doing the same type of thing chug a lgging & then stop. Had it towed to a local shop who then had to tow it to the Ford dealer. Ford did have a recall issue on tcm ,replaced it,the cowl panel & new key fobs. We had to pay for labor due to Ford motors fault what supposedly didn't cover. Mileage approx 65000 not sure on this. At this time. I believe it is the same trouble again.

2004 Ford Freestar transmission failure. Ford service manager stated a substance -appears to be water-enter through transaxle vent. Vent is suppose to be cover by a cowl grille panel. Loss of power while driving and unable to shift into any gear, although engine running. Transaxle light came on back in June 2010 taken to bangor, me Ford, transmission drained, flushed with bg flush machine and refilled. Feb 17, 2011 transaxle light again came on . Was able to get safely back into driveway when all transmission power loss. Unable to shift into any gear. Towed to Ford dealership again in NY where I live. After tranny torn down ($450. 00) Ford service manager stated a substance -appears to be water-enter through transaxle vent. Vent is suppose to be cover by a cowl grille panel. Found tsb06-04-10 report that identified that water may leake into pcm and or transaxle vent if the pcm connector cover is not properly seated and allows water to leak into these two areas. In Nov. 2006, I incurred a failure of the pcm . Three scary loss of power on a major highway and three attempts to fix the problem before Ford hotline contacted by technician and TSB bullentin used to install new pcm and install cowl panel fix described. This panel's seal may have failed allowing water to enter the transaxle's vent. Ford's consumer's 800 line refused to help and denied any responsibility for repairs as did my warranty company. They said that water intrusion isn't covered. Ford needs to recall these vehicles as there is a large number of complaints (many that could have ended in tragedy on highways. Any number of google searches will show hundreds of complaints. Please nhsta help us get these vehicles recalled. Remember the denials by Toyota. They are paying for that fatal accident that killed a family of 4.

The contact owns a 2007 Ford Freestar. The contact was driving in reverse at approximately 5 mph into a parking space with the brake pedal engaged when the vehicle began to lunge unexpectedly. The failure occurred sporadically while driving at low speed. The vehicle recently stalled with the illumination of the engine warning indicator. The vehicle restarted and resumed as normal. The contact notified the dealer and they recommended the vehicle be diagnosed to determine the cause of failure. The contact planned to take the vehicle for diagnosis. The manufacturer was not made aware of the defect. There was an open investigation related to the failure under NHTSA action number pe10033 (vehicle speed control; power train: automatic transmission: control module/tcm,). The failure mileage was 90,000.

We own a 2004 Ford Freestar with a 4. 2l motor. Thank god we bought an extended warranty when we bought the vehicle new in October 2004. At approximately 55,000 miles the vehicle stopped suddenly in traffic and needed to be towed. The transmission would not engage in any gear. I had the van towed to rodman Ford in foxboro MA where I was told the transmission fluid was contaminated with water. The warranty covered the entire repair except for a $50 deductible, also covered rental and the tow. Great, right. The only problem is that at 67,000 miles the same thing happened. Same coverage, paid for the whole thing again. Well here we are at 82,000 miles (no longer under 75,000 covered under warranty) and the tranny goes again. Now the last one was replaced last December at rodman Ford again. They are now trying to tell me that there is no coverage and a new tranny is going to cost me $3500 to replace. Huh? your kidding right? there seems to be another issue at play here. After reading some info on the web, I see there are several hundred reports of this same thing happening in this particular vehicle. There is an e-mail on line from stephen mchenry of the NHTSA stating that water has been getting into the pcm or transaxle vent. If this is a known problem then why is Ford not following the detailed repair instructions outlined in this e-mail. Why do they continue to replace transmissions several time in these vans when they know the cause of the problem. Are the service departments not busy enough and are they trying to create repeat customers. I am not going to pay a nickel toward this repair. I also have noticed several attorneys soliciting clients online for class action suits trying to get these other people their money back for the repairs that for them were not covered by an extended warranty. Thanks for your time.

1) sudden unexpected loss of power and all gears. Occurred while normally accelerating from a stop. Vehicle towed to Ford dealer. Dealer stated to replace entire transmission at cost of $2900. 00 plus credit card interest. 2) sudden loss of power. Dealer replaced pcm at cost of $900. 00. 3) powering steering fluid leak. 4) coolant leak. 5) persistent loss of air from wheel after replacing tire.

I have noticed that this issue only occures when it rains. I have take it to several mechanic and they where not able to pin point th issue since it does not happen regularly. While doing some research on the interent I have noticed that this is a common thing among Ford free star. I plan to take my vechile to a mechanic with the information regarding pcm issue, if this a common defect I hope there will be a recall. This is afamily vechile I drive my children in it everyday and this is a potental hazard if my van was to die on the intersate.