Ignition Module Problems of Dodge Grand Caravan - part 2

2008 Dodge Grand Caravan. Consumer writes in regards to wireless ignition node module parts not available to complete recall notice. The consumer stated he received the recall notice seven months ago. Prior to receiving the recall letter, he experienced intermittent problems at least every month with the vehicle stalling. The consumer finally traded the vehicle after the waiting for the parts, became too frustrating. Recall # 14v373000.

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The contact owns a 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan. While driving approximately 60 mph, the vehicle stalled without warning and the check engine warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The dealer diagnosed that the ignition module needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and stated that the VIN was not included in NHTSA campaign number: 14v373000 (air bags, electrical system). The failure mileage was 47,000.

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2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. Consumer requests update on wireless ignition node module detents recall notice.

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The first thing that happened was; we were driving down the road and the van just stopped running. Luckily we were only going 20 miles per hour and there wasn’t a lot of traffic. The power steering wasn’t working but my husband was able to steer the van off the road to safety. We called aaa and my husband went to the store to get dry gas because we thought that there may have been moisture in the tank from condensation. When he got back to the van he put in the dry gas and he decided to try to turn the van on and it turned over. We went home after that. After that the van seems to work for a while, then one day my husband came home from work and tried to shut the van off, but it would not shut off. The horn started blowing and the wipes, wiper fluid, lights and door locks were all working all by themselves. We unattached the wires to the battery but that did not work and finally started pulling fuses until it all stopped. He drove to work without the fuses until we could get it fixed. I called Chrysler and they said that there was a recall around may 2015. We brought the van into the dealer and they replaced the ignition module and gave us new key fobs. The van stalled again on the way home from work and we called aaa to get the van and take it back to the dealership. They said that they checked all the electric and ran a purge monitor test and others. The dealership said that they could not find anything the matter with the van and charged us $200. Just recently we were driving in traffic at around 20 miles per hour and the van stalled again. This time we did not have time to move it and a truck driver helped to push us out of traffic. My husband took the wires off the battery and put it back on and the van started. We went to the Toyota dealership and bought a car that day. We still own the van, but I am afraid to drive it.

2008 Dodge Grand Caravan. Consumer writes in regards to the wireless ignition module detents recall notice.

Horns blaring , wipers going, washer fluid squirting rear wiper moving and washer fluid spraying. Car just came back after four weeks at dealer that could not find problem, with chryslers star assistance the customer assistance replaced the ignition module and two key fobs. Did not fix original problem. I have logged over forty hours of phone conversation talking to chryslers customer case managers and supervisors as well as dealer service advisor ,service manager and mechanics. There has been a complete disconnect between normal human caring and the robot like customer service. I am not sure how people can sleep at night after telling families to keep driving these unsafe vehicles that stall while driving. Lawyers after punitive damages only don't take cases for vehicles that were produced before Chrysler s bankruptcy. I don't blame them. Tipm modules seem to be recalled for vehicles after bankruptcy. I wonder if people remember 1994 Dodge caravan rear latches. Same old Chrysler profits before human lives.

The vehicle just quite--it died in the middle of the road. . . There was a recall on this vehicle from Chrysler but they stopped 2 months before this one. . Called the dealer and they said sorry. . . It happened numerous times. . . The recall was on the ignition module which was what they changed on my van. . $850. 00 dollars worth.

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I currently am buying a 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan is part of the recall for faulty ignition module. This has cause the vehicle to sparatically not start, even after a complete day of driving. This issue started shortly after I purchased the van almost 2 yeas ago. I was told my key needed reprogrammed, payed to have it done and this has obviously not fixed the issue , as it continues to progressively worsen. The vehicle is now shutting off while driving and will not restart. I have spoke with the dealership and called Chrysler and they both say that I have to pay to have it even diagnosed becaise they do not think that the recall is the issue. I was also told that even if it is the recalled part there is no fix avaliable for the 2009 as of yet. I fear the vehicle will not be functional much longer as the problem seems to occur on now a daily basis. The dealer insists it is something else any other time I have had the problem and just tries to just sell me another part that will not fix it. So what are other options other than paying for a car that is non functional or giving the car back loosing anything I have paid on it and being without a vehicle?.

Tl-the contact owns a 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that while driving at 40 mph, the vehicle stalled. The contact was able to restart the vehicle. The contact was an independent mechanic who diagnosed that the ignition switch and the win module needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure recurred on numerous occasions. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The contact was aware of NHTSA campaign number: 11v139000 (electrical system) but the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was 95,000. Oo.

The contact owns a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that the key was difficult to remove from the ignition switch and the key failed to turn over to start the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic, who diagnosed that there was an internal electrical failure with the win module. The contact was made aware of NHTSA campaign id number: 14v373000 (electrical system) and referred to the dealer. The dealer indicated that the part needed was not available to remedy the repair. The vehicle was towed to the dealer. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and was not able to provide a timeframe for when the part would become available. The approximate failure mileage was 122,000.

The contact owns a 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that when the key was turned to the off position, the engine remained activated. The contact stated that in order for the engine to shut off, the battery needed to be disconnected. The vehicle was taken to a dealer for diagnosis. The mechanic stated that the ignition module needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 118,933.

The wireless ignition node(win) module may have unitentional movement of the frequency operated button ignition key (fobik) from the on to the accessory position while driving. The manufacturer recall number :l25, the NHTSA recall number:11v-139. Well my vehicle shut down, had it towed to the dealership where it was purchased(murphy Ford, 1130 township line rd, chester PA 19013) on Friday, September 5, 2014 around 3pm. Call from them saying it would have to be taken to a Dodge dealership(18014 us 202, glen mills PA 19342). Call from this dealership on September 9, 2014. The part number for repairs to my vehicle is 689241069aa. I dont understand why this is not covered under the recall. This problem caused my car not to start and it locked in gear, locked the steering wheel, and locked all windows.

2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. Consumer writes in regards to wireless ignition node module detents recall notice issues. The consumer was informed the part was not available. Recall # 14v373000.

Tl-the contact owns a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle stalled without warning. The vehicle was taken to a private mechanic where it was diagnosed that the wireless ignition node control module needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The contact received notification of NHTSA campaign number: 11v139000 (electrical system) however, the part to do the repair was unavailable. The contact stated that the manufacturer exceeded a reasonable amount time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 78,000. Djr.

The first instance of my electrical system going haywire was around July 31, 2014. It was a quick moment that happened while I was coming to a stop. The wipers started going on their own, the horn honked, the windshield fluid started spraying, and my locks started going up and down. It stopped after about a minute then started again in the afternoon for about 5 minutes, until I unplugged the battery. It became an intermittent issue that I would think went away and then would happen randomly. I decided to bring my vehicle to the dealership service dept in October of 2014, where they diagnosed the issue as my needing a new win module. However, after that replacement, the issue continued. The issue happens whenever it feels like happening. Whether the keys are in the ignition and I am driving or if I am sitting in my office building, a distance away from my car, with my keys at my desk. My keys can be in the ignition, or out of the ignition. It doesn't matter. My car does as it pleases, when it pleases. Again, the locks, wipers, and windshield fluid just start going on their own. The horn also goes, but I have removed the horn fuses so I do not honk at random people when I am driving. Some forums say this is a tipm issue. Some say it is an ignition module issue. Some say it has to do with the driver's side door wiring. I have no idea what the reason is. I have spent thousands of dollars "fixing" this issue but it is still happening. Here is a link to a video of the most recent occurrence on 7/28/15.

2010 @ 40,000 miles, totally integrated power module (tipm) replaced due to electrical issues with door locks (under warranty). 2014 @ 124,000 miles tipm short again starting with the front blower motor. Tipm needs replaced again. Estimate $900, no parts available due to massive back order and no timeline of when parts will be available. Advised not to drive vehicle due to safety issues (I. E. Random airbag deployment, loss of ignition, fire hazard). Main vehicle for family of five, must drive daily for work and family appointments.

Serious safety issue. My van starts on its own. The horn blares and won't stop. Wipers come on and the engine won't stop. Does this without a key in the ignition. When driving you lose complete control of the transmition and the engine will not turn off. Dodge needs to do a recall and something needs to be done. I'm afraid to park in the garage because it starts on its own. I'm worried the carbon monoxide will asphyxiate my family. I've called the Dodge main headquarters and they play dumb like they never heard of this happening. I found thousands of complaints online. It's in the Dodge dealer right now. Hoping to fix the issue. They don't know what the problem is. The actual problem is called a bad tipm (totally integrated power module).

The wireless ignition node module will not turn off completely and gets stuck in the accessory mode. I must turn the vehicle back on, put it in gear, and then back to park several times before the key will finally go to the off stage and I can pull the key out. This happens very often. I received a recall notice for the win module (r03/NHTSA 14v-373) and upon calling the only Dodge dealership in my area, I have been put on a wait list because the dealership is only receiving two to three repair kits at a time and I may be waiting several months for a repair. The recall states, "this could cause unintended engine shut off and increase the risk of a crash. " this should be handled immediately, but it is not.

I received a wireless ignition node module defect safety recall from Chrysler in July 2014. Your data base suggests may 2015 as the date, but it's wrong. This is much older. The original recall was l25 NHTSA 14v-373. The fiat Chrysler hotline for recalls has the number as r03. They have failed to correct this defect within a reasonable time, because this is 14 months. A reasonable time might be a few weeks, I think. I call dealers here in the st louis area, they promise to call me when parts are in. I called the recall hotline for fiat Chrysler, I complain to my state's attorney general for consumers, and get nowhere. All I hear is "we can't get the parts. " well, I know many, many model cars are in this recall; not only gm, but Jeep, Dodge, etc. But I can't help it -- I am the one who is in trouble for the faulty ignition and fobik, and this package has fiat Chrysler's name on it. It's time to twist their arms really hard. This is safety. The safety recall hotline at Chrysler says this is their part, and they're not doing it, and I quote, "I don't know what to tell you. " well, tell them. . . . . . . I think I should be given a car to drive that is safe until they can do this required recall. Or they can refund my car price and the price of my lift equipment installed for a scooter lift in the rear of the car. I've had it. Waiting and hoping are not getting us drivers anywhere. They've got to do something and now before someone else dies.

Upon starting vehicle the fobik may not fully seated in "on" position. If not fully seated, the fobik could inadvertently move to "accessory" mode. This could unintended shut off the engine and passive restraint system, including airbag shut off. This could increase risk of crash under certain driving conditions and increase risk of occupant injury. Also, the wireless ignition node module may have unintentional movement of fobik. Two new fobik's are a part of recall procedure and will have to be replaced. Recall is a part of Chrysler notification codes: l25, r03.

On multiple occasions while driving or in park with or without key in the ignition. The wipers start going the fluid will spray the horn will honk the doors will lock. . (and has on 1occasion locked my children in the van and I could not get them out until it stopped about 2 minutes later) I've had the heat and ac stop working I've had transmission issues, lights going off while driving in the dark! multiple problems that all lead back to this timp module that Dodge,Chrysler Jeep will not recall nor fix. . And the dealership is no help either because they'll run multiple diagnostic checks and say there is nothing wrong even if you bring it in while it's having an episode and they clearly see there is a problem if the diagnostic comes back with nothing them they send you on your way because they can't help they say.

Our 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan had an issue on the evening of April 21st, 2014 where the key just fell out of the ignition. It did not have an impact on being able to drive the car, but it just fell out. The next morning the vehicle would not start and the key would not turn or come back out once it was placed into the ignition. We had to have the vehicle towed to carmax where they completed the repair and we were fine with their service. We originally purchased the vehicle in November 2011. We were later notified by Dodge about a safety recall that involved a win module and they described the possible issues exactly as what happened to us. Since we had already gotten the work done and the vehicle has been driving great since carmax did the repair, we felt Dodge should reimburse us since that is what their recall notification stated. Now Dodge is saying it was a different part and they will not honor their own recall. Carmax was awesome and we are very happy with the vehicle, but not happy with Dodge since they acknowledge a manufacturer defect and refuse to honor it.

Van would not start at times or would staul out at times while driving and lose all power and breaks when we hit door open button it would open half way while my kids would be getting out then shut on them. Van now wont start at all got towed and the diagnostic came back the win module is cause of failure(wireless ignition module).

I was driving to work on Tuesday August 13, 2013 doing about 60mph, suddenly my windshield wipers came on, the horn started blaring, dashboard gauges stopped working (then started going crazy) and the engine turned off. I was able to pull over to the side of the road, I turned off the ignition removed the key but the nothing in the van would not turn off. The wipers were on, the horn was blaring and the dash gauges were still going crazy. This continued for about 6 to 8 minutes before everything just stopped. After about 3 minutes I was able to start the van and continue to work without issue. I called the dealership and told them the problem (it was in that shop for similar problem 2 weeks earlier) I dropped it off at the dealer the same day and as of today they it is still there (they cannot duplicate the problem…. . ) I've researched the problem online and I am apparently 1 of hundreds with the same issue with 2008 Grand Caravans. It is a faulty tipm module.

Car shut off ignition switch went from run to accessory. Multiple occurrences ranging for 30 feet to about 1/2 mile out of driveway. Occurrences were always after first starting up. I had a heavy key chain with a leatherman micro attached. I removed the leatherman, and disconnected the battery and sprayed silicone in ignition switch and cycled multiple times. I have not had an occurrence since. I did notice that the 2010 was recalled for the same exact problem I was experiencing. Reference recall is pasted below. This is also the exact same problem as the recent gm recall. Recall date: Mar 01, 2011 model affected: 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan summary: Chrysler is recalling certain model year 2010 Dodge journey, Grand Caravan, and Chrysler town & country vehicles manufacturer from August 3, 2009, through June 17, 2010. Some vehicles may experience inadvertent ignition key displacement from the run to accessory position while driving causing the engine to shut off. Consequence: engine shut off while driving could increase the risk of a crash. Remedy: dealers will replace the win modules free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during July 2011. Owners may contact Chrysler at 1-800-853-1403. Potential units affected: 195798 notes: Chrysler group llc l02 & l25.

In the most serious of many no-start incidents, our van failed to start in 107 degree temperatures with our three small children in the car. We were stranded at a remote rest area, with nowhere to take refuge from the dangerous heat. After 18 attempts the engine finally started and we completed our trip to reno nevada, driving in remote areas amid deadly heat fearing our van would fail to restart if stopped. In the prior week while in FL, the van had a new battery installed at our gator Chrysler, in a repair advised to solve no start incidents we had in FL. The van also underwent an inspection, with no problems reported to us. We scheduled a panicked dealer service visit while still in route, at a reno Dodge on July 1st 2013. The dealership technicians retained the van to diagnose the no-start for 2 full days. They noted no malfunction and could not reproduce the problem. The van has since developed intermittent failures of several electronic systems, including stalling when placed in reverse, failing to shift into 2nd gear after sitting overnight, no power to the instrument cluster or no power to the console controls. The van at the time of purchase in December of 2011 had previously been "repaired" in the recall for its win module. Additionally a pcm reflash 68050411af had been performed. Our van continues to have no-start incidents and transmission fails to shift into 2nd gear, no fixes. Both reno area Chrysler dealerships have looked at our van and noted no failures. Despite being "repaired" under recall the ignition module continues to malfunction. With a fob inserted the module shows excess sloppiness in the clockwise direction. The key fob has been stuck in the ignition on several occasions, and the engine has continued running after removal of the key. These malfunctions have potential to become dangerous in certain situations.

The first incident happened on 5/29/13 while my van was parked in my driveway. My vans lights flashed, the horn went crazy, the windshield wipers were going on their own. The car was not started and no key in the ignition. It was sitting there. This lasted about 8 minutes. I went to advanced auto after it stopped and had them check it with the machine. They told me it could be a battery problem but the code machine said the problem was caused by a power surge from a relay. He could not be sure which issue was causing the problem or what relay would do this. I bought a new battery in hopes that would resolve the problem. On 5/30/13 I got home from work and pulled in my driveway. My son asked to borrow my car to go to a friends house. He made it to the end of the road and the horn started beeping, windshield wipers started going, lights started flashing and the van began to accelerate. My son said he turned the key to the off position and removed the key from the ignition. The car continued to run without the key. This lasted for 10 minutes. The van is now parked because I researched the symptoms and came across hundreds if not thousands of the same complains lots of them recent. They all said it was the total ignition power module. I am very confused as to why Dodge knows of this problem and has not recalled the vehicles before someones life is lost. There are so many complaints and the severity of safety at hand over a defective part. I will never buy another Dodge again. How can I do business with a company that cares so little for human life. What if I was driving with my 5 children and this caused an accident. What if this hurt or even killed one of them.

This incident has happened 3 other times in the past. The first incident at about 5,000 miles and the second incident at 22,000 and a third incident at about 45,000. This last incident occurred on the highway traveling at about 67 mph. The headlamps turn off and the horn blares constant. The windshield wipers go at full speed (front and back) and the fluid is spraying everywhere. The doorlocks begin to flicker in the open and lock position. The brake lights are also shut off but the reverse lights are lit up. The tachometer and speedometer go to zero. You can maneuver the vehicle to the side of the road and try to shut off the vehicle, but to your surprise the vehicle doesn't shut off. It keeps running! so as you are sitting there wondering what to do and unlock your door manually and then you have to unhook the battery and somehow that works. If you are lucky when you connect the battery back in the system goes back to normal. If your unlucky the horn and windshield wipers are still going strong along with all the other issues. Either way this system malfunction is being reported all over the internet and Dodge hasn't responded. They are reporting a tipm (total ignition power module) apparently the part is in such demand that you cannot order because they are backordered up to 800 units.

The vehicle shutoff in the middle of an intersection after putting the vehicle in motion after a red light turned green. The vehicle has a hard time starting recently and we believe it's due to the ignition recall. We contacted our dealer and they said a bad key problem is separate from the win module detent ring problem. They investigated the problem and said a bad win module is the cause for not starting. My belief is that the loose detent ring caused a failure of the key due to a bad connection for years. I'm also afraid we could be seriously injured before the recall as this is our only vehicle. We called Dodge and they said nothing could be done safety wise for us until the recalled part is manufactured. I asked them if they could provide us a rental vehicle until then they said no. So I said you know there's something dangerous and yet there's nothing you can do and we are totally on our own if we get injured, to which they replied "yes". We want to file a complaint against Dodge/Chrysler for not looking out for our safety. Thanks, omar tannehill.

The contact owns a 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that the vehicle stalled while driving at 70 mph. The contact was able to coast the vehicle onto the shoulder where it was restarted. The vehicle was able to be driven to a private mechanic where it was found that win module had failed. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer informed the contact that the vehicle was not included in NHTSA campaign id number: 11v139000 (electrical system: ignition). The failure and the current mileage was 67,477.

Vehicle was being driven on road totally cut out, would not re start, after some 20 minutes restarted, decided to drive on thruway back to mechanic, would run for a short time then cut out again. Given to Chrysler Dodge dealer, unable to locate problem, could not fix. . Replaced ecm module replace oem module no better. Own mechanic replaced a wire, at least it run but now cuts out in car wash, puddles, slush. Chrysler still have no idea, except that they have several instances of the same problem. Also ignition key works only when tapped with a hammer and turn, apparently this is also a common fault.

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Driving the vehicle on a residential street. Engine quit suddenly and unexpectedly. Steering and brakes failed. Vehicle went off the road, over the curb and came to a stop. No property damage or bodily harm. If we had been traveling at highway speeds, fear of death would have been a real concern. The engine would not start for approximately a minute after the incident. Engine finally started and the vehicle was taken to a Dodge dealership. Diagnosed as a 'bad win module' (wireless ignition node). The technician actually guessed the problem was the win module before diagnosing the problem. He said it was a 'fairly common problem'. An online investigation revealed this part has a recall associated with it in the 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan (our Dodge Grand Caravan is a 2008). The reason I am writing the NHTSA is the newly replaced win module is clearly a redesigned part. It looks and functions differently than the old, faulty win module. If Dodge redesigned the part, they must have assumed the earlier design was defective in some way. To justify the need for a redesign, there had to be some driving factor like improved safety. It is my belief that this defect had the real potential of causing death and I am requesting the NHTSA investigate this matter. Am I the first to have lodged a complaint regarding this part? thank you for your time and attention. I look forward to your response.

Tl- the contact owns a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan. The contact stated that the key would remain stuck in the ignition switch and fail to power on or off the vehicle. In addition, when driving the steering wheel seized and the vehicle stalled. The contact mentioned that the speedometer, the tripometer, the cruise control and the power doors failed. The power door locks only operated when the vehicle was powered off and the security door lock feature activated intermittently. The contact also stated that both the accelerator and brake pedal traveled to the floorboard as a result the vehicle delayed to come to a stop. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic, who diagnosed that the control module, the transmission leak on the transmission line, the oil pan and the molding needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed that the VIN was not included in NHTSA campaign id number: 14v373000 (electrical system) and NHTSA campaign id number: 11v394000 (air bags and equipment). The approximate failure mileage was unknown. Djr.

Driving on interstate I-90 when I lost power to wipers,turn signals,radio,power windows. I took the van back to the Dodge dealer since they had fixed the wireless ignition module under a recall notice in August of 2010. I was told to touch the key and the power would return which it did do. I was also told that the problem of the key turning off the engine was fixed under the recall but they now have this problem. Since first reporting the problem in October this has occured more frequently.

2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. Consumer writes in regards to parts not available to complete wireless ignition node module detents recall and consumer seeks reimbursement for same problem. Recall # 14v373000. Updated 08/03/15.